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X3 install and uninstalling old versions
Hi all,
Preparing for an X3 Producer install I uninstalled 8 and 8.5 because of space issues on my laptop. Still have X1 and X2.
All my 32-bit effects won't work in X2 as they are incorrectly installed apparently. Z3ta+ can't find Bitmap resources and Windows won't let me associate CWP files with X2.
If I sort these out with your kind help should I then be uninstalling X1 and X2?
Thanks!
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Re: X3 install and uninstalling old versions
2013/12/02 19:12:38
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☄ Helpfulby Mus 2013/12/03 09:39:34
Keep the old Sonar versions.
However if you have space issues and your installations are pretty muddled, you might want to consider backing up and reinstall Windows from scratch (nice new clean installation newly formatted),
Cheers...
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Re: X3 install and uninstalling old versions
2013/12/03 07:32:10
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Thanks.
I am considering a fresh install, would get rid of a lot of HP bloatware for sure, but needs time for a bit of careful planning.
Any idea how I can get my 32-bit FX back in the meantime?
Cheers
M
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Re: X3 install and uninstalling old versions
2013/12/03 08:26:12
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☄ Helpfulby Mus 2013/12/03 09:39:26
If you are running 64bit SONAR and the 32bit effects in question are DX plug-ins (i.e. older Cakewalk plug-ins), the only way to positively get them to work is install a 32bit version of SONAR. You may be able to get some of the working by using a DX-to-VST wrapper like dxshell so they will load into BitBridge.
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Re: X3 install and uninstalling old versions
2013/12/03 08:41:13
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☄ Helpfulby Mus 2013/12/03 09:39:18
This is a question that constantly gets asked, that and can I install Sonar x (meaning the newest version) along side the existing version.
The answer is: install the latest version, BUT don't touch the old versions.
You "hosed" your plugs when you uninstalled version 8.
You have space issues, and that's the ONLY reason to uninstall.
Sonar installs its own "bloatware"; demos, loops, that sort of stuff.
Go into pref's, file locations, and find where all that got put.
There's probably a "user" folder for each version, that crap can go.
Alexs is right about a fresh Win install, PITA but that's probably your best bet...
Backup any "presets" and track templates you've saved first!
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Re: X3 install and uninstalling old versions
2013/12/03 09:43:33
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Thanks guys,
I guess I shouldn't have listened to the PC manufacturer/guru who told me to get rid.
So far it's some VSTs (Glaceverb/Kjaerhus) and Rapture64LE that don't work.
The VSTs are installed but X2 doesn't like them as much as it used to....
Cheers
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Re: X3 install and uninstalling old versions
2013/12/03 09:58:08
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☄ Helpfulby Mus 2013/12/03 12:03:17
As far as 3rd party VST plug-ins, check you scan path. Even then, you may have problems with some older 32bit plug-ins in 64bit SONAR. If BitBridge does not work with your older VST plug-ins, the solution may be jBridge or ultimately running 32bit SONAR. I did not know there was a 64bit version of Rapture LE. It may be having issues running alongside the full VST version that comes with X2/3. If that is the case, it may require a clean reinstall of both to get the old Rapture LE running.
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Re: X3 install and uninstalling old versions
2013/12/03 12:05:29
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Actually it appears to be all 32-bit plugins. They all worked fine in X2 before.
Damn.
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Re: X3 install and uninstalling old versions
2013/12/03 12:08:26
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☄ Helpfulby Mus 2013/12/03 12:50:38
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Re: X3 install and uninstalling old versions
2013/12/03 12:50:29
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Thanks scook I tried that in X2 and they all disappeared. I wonder if they will come back if I install X3? I'm not confident, but it would be nice if they did.
I tried moving them from the x86 folder to the 64 bit folder but that hasn't worked either.
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Re: X3 install and uninstalling old versions
2013/12/03 13:02:25
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If plug-ins disappeared and did not return, that means the scanner could not find them after cleaning out the VST inventory in the registry. Most likely due to the path not being specified in Preferences > File > VST Settings. If X2 cannot see them, X3 won't either. Moving most VSTs plug-ins from one folder to another, while not necessary, usually is not a problem as long as the VST scanner is run after the move. IIRC the Glaceverb and Kjaerhus plug-ins fall into the easily moved category.
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Re: X3 install and uninstalling old versions
2013/12/03 14:04:53
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Edited - answered my own question
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Re: X3 install and uninstalling old versions
2013/12/19 14:33:19
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Guys,
So can this only be solved by a Windows re-install?
Can I not start from scratch with Sonar only?
Thanks
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Re: X3 install and uninstalling old versions
2013/12/19 15:10:45
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I wouldn't.
it's a more painful process but to start with a freshly formatted hard drive is, in my opinion, a great way to get a lean DAW setup.
One word of caution, make sure you back up EVERYTHING you need to an external drive somewhere, as some of your older plugins might not be available to download anymore, such as the Kjaerhus suite.
A shame, as they were great plugs but unless I'm mistaken, you can't get hold of these.
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Re: X3 install and uninstalling old versions
2013/12/19 15:19:07
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Eventually, I do want a fresh Windows install on my laptop, but was looking for a quicker fix for the time-being if at all possible.
I also have a new PC arriving in January.
I have backups of all my plug-ins including Kjaerhus :-)
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Re: X3 install and uninstalling old versions
2013/12/20 09:28:05
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So, I'll uninstall X1 then X2 - anything else to clean up properly?
Then do I start with X3 afresh and work backwards through X2, X1, 8 and even older for ProChannel settings and older Cake synths that I might need?
Thanks!
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Re: X3 install and uninstalling old versions
2013/12/21 09:14:30
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...and what settings are worth backing up and restoring these days? Does AUD.INI still exist somewhere now and Key bindings etc.?
Thanks
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