vladasyn
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Can a project with frozen soft synths be moved on another computer with no soft synth?
Hey guys!
I made a song entirely using software synths. After I freeze soft synth tracks to Audio, can I save this file as a bundle project and give it to somebody to open, who has no soft synths installed? I understand that soft synths will not open if they ARE not installed, but after the audio is frozen, the tracks are audio, right, therefor there should be no problem to open the project on another computer? Thank you.
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Re: Can a project with frozen soft synths be moved on another computer with no soft synth?
2013/12/23 21:27:18
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I believe it will work fine. From what I've experienced, a "frozen" synth track is just a quick audio mix of the track. You should be able to delete the synth from the rack once it's frozen so that the other machine won't go nuts trying to find the missing instrument.
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Re: Can a project with frozen soft synths be moved on another computer with no soft synth?
2013/12/23 21:37:23
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In case you're not aware, you can easily insert an audio track and simply copy and paste the clip from a frozen track to it.
To answer your question, and to keep things non destructive, in one song file you could keep everything together and freeze soft synths as desired. Then you could copy that file.
In the copy file you could create blank audio tracks as I mentioned above. Then copy and paste the frozen audio clips to those new audio tracks. Then delete the synths from the synth rack and their associated tracks. You'd then be able to get the file to open for the other person if they had a comparable version of your Sonar.
If not, you could export the whole song as individual wave files for them to import into their own software.
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Re: Can a project with frozen soft synths be moved on another computer with no soft synth?
2013/12/23 21:44:54
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Bundle file - packs everything up including the frozen synths. Notes: - If the computer on which the bundle is unpacked doesn't have those synths, the track cannot be unfrozen there. The synth will be greyed-out and disabled.
- If you freeze a track with FX included, those effects cannot be modified and will also be greyed-out and disabled.
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Re: Can a project with frozen soft synths be moved on another computer with no soft synth?
2013/12/24 10:31:10
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Yes, as a frozen track is essentially a bounced down track, so you will not need the synth unless you unfreeze it.
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vladasyn
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Re: Can a project with frozen soft synths be moved on another computer with no soft synth?
2013/12/25 18:43:13
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Thank you for your reply. I can not copy audio as this song has over 70 track, of which may be 25 are midi (from soft synths)- I need to some how hide them- is there a way to hide all midi tracks at once? (I thought- there was function in console view, but I need them disappear in the track view. then I will need to "bundle" 30 or so frozen softsynths audio tracks.
Also- if I freeze track with effects (checked in options) but no actuall effects- it would not let me add any effects. (For those who did not try it- I froze about 10 tracks with "FX" box checked in freeze options so now I can not put any EQ or compressor on those tracks. Is there any way to change it without unfreezing it or copying it to another track? Thank you.
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Re: Can a project with frozen soft synths be moved on another computer with no soft synth?
2013/12/25 18:46:39
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Right-click in the FX bin and uncheck "Bypass Bin" to re-enable an FX bin.
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vladasyn
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Re: Can a project with frozen soft synths be moved on another computer with no soft synth?
2013/12/25 19:24:55
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I have to see if this is the case. The effects can be applied to such track but the signal is not going trough it if it was frozen with "FX" box checked in freez options. I would have to move the wav to another audio track to let it go into effect. But I will check and see if "bypass" is checked. I can not check right now- on another computer. Thank you.
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Re: Can a project with frozen soft synths be moved on another computer with no soft synth?
2013/12/25 19:50:41
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Steve's right (as usual): when you freeze a track with the "include fx" option on, the bin gets put into Bypass. If there had been no effects in the bin, all you need to do is un-Bypass it and away you go. (Even if there had been effects, you could still un-Bypass the bin and re-activate them, but that's not recommended.)
As for the original question: yes, you can open the project on another computer that doesn't have those soft synths installed. SONAR will complain that it can't find them, but the project will load and play. (This does, however, assume that you're copying the entire project and all audio files over to the other computer.)
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