Moved songs into folders

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2013/12/24 17:32:07 (permalink)

Moved songs into folders

I have a long list of songs saved in my documents some are finished others are not. So I decieded to tidy them up a bit and put them in to categories (folders) However, when reviewing the finished songs I noticed the audio was missing. Thankfully, I was able to do a search and allocate the audio and match it with the file (music).
 
I was playing through some songs to ensure that all audio and music were nicely linked together. I noticed on opening up a file that there was a stuttering sound, similar to when you get a drop out. On this occassion I was unable to play the file at all. I change the audio bit depth back to 16 to see if it would work and it still did not play. Other songs play audio through the left speaker and music through the right. This has happened ever since I put songs in different folders so I can have some sort of order and control over my saved music files.
 
If anyone knows why I am getting a stuttering or why some of my music is playing instrumental through the right speaker and only audio through the left since I made some changes I would like to know how to fix this? so suggestions are welcome.
 
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    Re: Moved songs into folders 2013/12/24 17:41:32 (permalink)
    It says audio is corrupt so it has been padded with silence and that is where I am getting vocals through the left and instrumental through the right speaker. These files played fine before.

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    Re: Moved songs into folders 2013/12/25 12:15:37 (permalink)
    Any Ideas?

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    Re: Moved songs into folders 2013/12/26 06:54:52 (permalink)
    You can't just move files around and expect Sonar to find everything the next time you open them, it doesn't work that way.
     
    The best way is to open a  project and do a "Save As" to a new location, making sure you've got "Copy Audio With Project" checked.
    This is assuming you're using Per Project Folders (which is the recommended way of working)
     
    Once you've done this with all of your projects, you can safely delete the originals from your system

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    Re: Moved songs into folders 2013/12/26 11:17:52 (permalink)
    I've used Cakewalk products since the 90's and am fairly old school. I do projects that encompass many songs all the time so I don't use the Per Projects Folders option. I set up an audio folder and all my work goes there for a certain group of songs. Currently I have many audio folders for many different groups of songs. If I try to open a song from a different directory I'll get the missing audio dialog and then have to change the Global Audio Directory in Preferences. When I do so, all is well.
    It sounds to me like you may have parts of your audio data in different folders. Not sure though, I've never had the audio left and right issue before.
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    Re: Moved songs into folders 2013/12/26 11:47:07 (permalink)
    I strongly recommend using per project folders. It will make life a lot easier in the long run.
     
    The way I have my projects setup is I have a Cakewalk Files folder on a data HD. There I have all my projects in their own folders.   
     
    BTW because I have this setup this way I can copy or move the Cakewalk Files folder to any HD I choose and Sonar will open these projects without any issues. This makes backup a breeze. The only files I have ever had trouble with are ones that were not using per project folders. I have to reassign the audio folder for those. 

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    Re: Moved songs into folders 2013/12/26 13:35:58 (permalink)
    John
    I strongly recommend using per project folders. It will make life a lot easier in the long run.
     
    The way I have my projects setup is I have a Cakewalk Files folder on a data HD. There I have all my projects in their own folders.   
     
    BTW because I have this setup this way I can copy or move the Cakewalk Files folder to any HD I choose and Sonar will open these projects without any issues. This makes backup a breeze. The only files I have ever had trouble with are ones that were not using per project folders. I have to reassign the audio folder for those. 


    Same here John.
     
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    Re: Moved songs into folders 2013/12/26 13:39:55 (permalink)
    > I strongly recommend using per project folders. It will make life a lot easier in the long run.
     
    I don't know why Cake supplies the other option away from project folders (I guess this is the way it has always been), I can't see the use case. Per Project folders seems the only way.

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    Re: Moved songs into folders 2013/12/26 13:42:01 (permalink)
    They do because it was the only way in the distant past, Alex.

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    Re: Moved songs into folders 2013/12/26 13:43:27 (permalink)
    I thought we settled the "need" for project folders and audio drives a long, long time ago...
    C: OS & Sonar
    D: general data
    A: Audio [gotta love Win 7 letting you have a "A" drive that's not a floppy (look it up, floppy I mean)]
    S: Samples or L for library whatever works
    These are separate drives children not partitions.
    Shouldn't there be (maybe there is!) some kind of "white" paper for this?
    And a "sync" tutorial maybe, just sayin' ...
     
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    Re: Moved songs into folders 2013/12/26 13:58:37 (permalink)
    Tom, we did but not everyone reads this forum. 

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    Re: Moved songs into folders 2013/12/26 14:47:36 (permalink)
    > They do because it was the only way in the distant past, Alex.
     
    Time to remove the past and force the per project option methinks, at least for X4 :)
    (in fact I've just put in a feature request for this).

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    Re: Moved songs into folders 2013/12/26 18:24:13 (permalink)
    "we did but not everyone reads this forum"
    Hence the need for a white paper.
    "force the per project option methinks"
    I don't want to "force" anyone to do anything!
    I just wish Rapture didn't "force" the installation of wav files to the C drive.
    But that's OT...
     
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    Re: Moved songs into folders 2013/12/26 18:27:28 (permalink)
    Ah, Alex I still have projects with the old global audio folder. I don't want that to go unsupported. 

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    Re: Moved songs into folders 2013/12/26 18:55:57 (permalink)
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    Ah, Alex I still have projects with the old global audio folder. I don't want that to go unsupported. 




    Exactly (agreed). That's the only use case I see right now, but no doubt somebody will come another soon?

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    Re: Moved songs into folders 2013/12/27 08:07:57 (permalink)
    The second part of my question is opening a new project it then says audio is corrupt and been padded with silence now certain projects have audio (vocal) through one speaker and instrumental through the other. Those are projects that I have not moved around and have never been corrupted before???
     
    btw hope eveyone has been able to relax over the holiday.

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    Re: Moved songs into folders 2013/12/27 08:16:52 (permalink)
    Thanks for the info in this thread, you guys.
    I'm finally getting a handle of some of this stuff.

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    Re: Moved songs into folders 2013/12/28 17:25:25 (permalink)
    I hardly come on here when I first bought Sonar I was here all the time watching the conversations, I did not really know much about recording although I used Cubase  for a little while but never the full version. So after leaving the forums for a long time I started getting into recording and I can see the benefits. So I have learned my own way of doing things...so basic trial and error but its nice to know I can pop down into the forums to get answers.

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    Re: Moved songs into folders 2013/12/28 17:25:25 (permalink)
    I have called tech support so hopefully I can solve the problem however, I am a firm believer that if you lose files or files become corrupt that it is a sign that you are getting better so you move onward and upward.

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    Re: Moved songs into folders 2013/12/28 18:24:08 (permalink)
    That's an interesting view. I'm a firm believer that if you lose files or files become corrupt, you probably just jacked something up and, hopefully, you have a backup somewhere.

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