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2013/12/29 02:47:11 (permalink)

Were to begin? Help Wanted.

I am going to be Cakewalk user, I think, and I want to know if this is the way to go, or not?
What do you think on the plethora of options out there, including hardware and software mix?
I want to upgrade from a MBoxMini3G but I also have Protools 10.X.
My only concern is:
 
Can we Go Pro on the Cakewalk? 
 
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Re: Were to begin? Help Wanted. 2013/12/29 04:42:46 (permalink)
There are many professionals using Sonar.
Any other questions?

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Re: Were to begin? Help Wanted. 2013/12/29 05:18:18 (permalink)
I use Sonar over PT for ALL my professional audio creative needs.
 
The only time I have to use PT sometimes is OMF and AAF imports in video work, other than that Sonar is far more flexible, cost effective and darn right groovy in terms of audio work.

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Re: Were to begin? Help Wanted. 2013/12/29 05:23:45 (permalink)
If you're careful in choosing your audio and PC hardware there's no reason why Sonar can't be the DAW around which you setup your studio.

I speak from my own experience and knowing many on this forum and others who also use Sonar to run their studios.

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Re: Were to begin? Help Wanted. 2013/12/29 05:28:24 (permalink)
 There are A lot of Worse software packages out there for lots more money IMHO!!!
Sonar X3D Kicks arse!!!
Mind you I could be Biased!!!!
I have been using Sonar since version 1 and I feel no reason to move, it does everything I want and more.
Wanna bake an extra tasty cake, you need good bakers!!!
 

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Re: Were to begin? Help Wanted. 2013/12/29 05:37:31 (permalink)
I have ProTools 11--but I can fly in Sonar.
 

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Re: Were to begin? Help Wanted. 2013/12/29 07:00:32 (permalink)
I have Sonar X3D , but I am too old to fly. Walking with cakewalk is just fine for me.
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Re: Were to begin? Help Wanted. 2013/12/29 09:16:51 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby mettelus 2013/12/29 14:14:15
Best bang for the buck out there! I don't know of any other software package out there that gives you virtually everything you need to get up and running right out of the gate. Used them all, Cakewalk is my choice.

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Re: Were to begin? Help Wanted. 2013/12/29 13:27:47 (permalink)
PiBoy
 
My only concern is:
 
Can we Go Pro on the Cakewalk? 
 



 
Yes.  It really is that simple.  There are plenty of people on this board alone that use Sonar professionally.  The same can be said of most major DAWs.  It's too broad of a question.  Whether Sonar is your best option for "going pro" is another topic all together and totally dependent on your needs. 
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Re: Were to begin? Help Wanted. 2013/12/29 14:25:25 (permalink)
I have only used Cakewalk products, so cannot speak to anything else. I think X3 introduced a lot of great things (speed comping, VST3, ARA, stability, etc.) and comes with enough packaged goodies to record without anything extra (esp. the Producer version). For a new user, it has enough to keep you occupied for a long long time.
 
I am not sure of what "going pro" entails in your mind, but there is a colossal difference between "DAW capability" (machine) and "DAW proficiency" (user). It is akin to a novice guitar player buying an expensive guitar to make them "play better"... will not happen... the player makes themself play better. Some nice advice given months ago (I wish I could give the person credit who said it) was "Pick a DAW, and stick with it." The proficiency part only comes through use, and that makes up a lot of the "going pro(ficient)"

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Re: Were to begin? Help Wanted. 2013/12/29 20:21:41 (permalink)
Just my opinion but I look at it as an everyday hobbyist or part time user of any DAW usually does not take the time to properly setup their computer or interface for "most-efficiency". On the other hand, someone who uses their DAW on an everyday basis in the professional level of the music business will have the most efficient computer setup they can get. A correct setup and the right DAW is a thing of beauty.
At the end of the day it will always be down to the ability to operate the DAW of choice as quickly and efficient as possible if you are going "PRO".  Learn your DAW inside out. Whichever your choice of weapon should be. 

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Re: Were to begin? Help Wanted. 2013/12/29 23:14:03 (permalink)
X3d is the bomb for me. No other DAW gives you the goods that Sonar does not to mention Cakewalk support, these boards, etc... invaluable. 

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Re: Were to begin? Help Wanted. 2013/12/30 19:37:53 (permalink)
Thanks! For your reply.
 
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Re: Were to begin? Help Wanted. 2014/01/02 02:21:01 (permalink)
One advantage of using Sonar is this forum as a help resource.
 
There is a plethora of very helpful people right here that are only a forum post away from providing answers to just about any questions/problems you may have.
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Re: Were to begin? Help Wanted. 2014/01/02 03:23:55 (permalink)
quoting fast biker--the forum is one of the mainstays of Sonar.

 I am a musician, not a geek, though of course have learned a lot in the many years I have been producing professionally. I have gone from Revox 1/2 tracks to Pro Tools 11 and beyond. I couldn't have made it some times if it wasn't for the combined wisdom I have found on this forum. And most people are really nice about it.

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Re: Were to begin? Help Wanted. 2014/01/02 09:05:08 (permalink)
PiBoy
Can we Go Pro on the Cakewalk? 
 
PiBoy



It may sound like I'm trying to toot our own horn here, but we have SONAR users working on hit TV shows, working on the Final Fantasy games, and playing in major selling bands like Megadeth. I would say "Going Pro" is definitely possible.
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Re: Were to begin? Help Wanted. 2014/01/02 10:46:05 (permalink)
AND, you get us forum folks thrown in for free :)
 
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Re: Were to begin? Help Wanted. 2014/01/02 13:38:49 (permalink)
The Final Fantasy Games? Really? How cool :)
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Re: Were to begin? Help Wanted. 2014/01/02 14:09:57 (permalink)
I wonder if people ask this question because Cakewalk (Twelve Tone Systems?) started off by offering MIDI-only sequencers back in the late 80's for what I assume was exclusively home use.  It was only later that they introduced the ability to add audio tracks.  I used the original (DOS-based) MIDI-only sequencer and was blown away with the ability to record guitar/bass/vocals alongside MIDI synth tracks when it was first introduced.  Cakewalk sequencers (at least to old timers like me) have retained that 'home' feel from the early days.  Or maybe it's the company itself that seems that way.  Maybe both.
 
I've never used Pro Tools -- and don't know much about their history -- but it seems that they were 'pro' from the outset.  Maybe this is why some people think Pro Tools is for pro use and Sonar for home use.
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Re: Were to begin? Help Wanted. 2014/01/02 16:51:14 (permalink)
Sonar X3 I could afford. Pro Tools I couldnt.
 
Though at first I wasnt planning on getting the studio version, or melodyne editor, but all of that was still far less expensive than Pro tools and added so much with nice discounts, and Im still too much of a noob for something as 'pro' as pro tools :p
 
Then if I get better at it, I can upgrade to X3 Pro, I dont think Pro Tools let you start with a cheaper pack and then upgrade.
 
I got to use pro tools at university, but I was pretty terrible at it and couldnt understand much. X3 has loads of tutorials, and I believe I'm learning far more from just 5 hours worth of videos than I managed to learn from 3 years of music tech.
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Re: Were to begin? Help Wanted. 2014/01/03 10:56:59 (permalink)
Yes, that's two more reasons why Sonar and Pro Tools are perceived differently: product price and prominence at educational institutions.  Sonar is more affordable but -- I'm guessing -- less prominent in course curricula.
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Re: Were to begin? Help Wanted. 2014/01/03 12:57:00 (permalink)
Pro Tools only has 2 advantages over Sonar:
 
  1. They were first in the market hence their adoption by major studios & institutions
  2. They had the name "Pro" in the title
That's about it. As a PRODUCT, Sonar is leaps & bounds ahead and is in many ways, far more "Pro" than PT will ever be, especially given the current market state of Avid

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Re: Were to begin? Help Wanted. 2014/01/03 13:54:06 (permalink)
Well, there's nothing that Cakewalk can do about being first, but perhaps their next generation product line should include "PRO" in the name: PRODAW, PROduce, PROpel, PROject, PROnar, or just plain PRO.
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Re: Were to begin? Help Wanted. 2014/01/03 14:23:35 (permalink)
SOPRO?

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Re: Were to begin? Help Wanted. 2014/01/03 15:50:53 (permalink)
Did you mean SoooooooPRO?  :-)
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Re: Were to begin? Help Wanted. 2015/01/16 05:03:31 (permalink)
Great!
 
Thanks all for your reply! Very Feel Welcome! And as of what i hear is one of the basics to stick with it.
 
when I thought about  the phrase "Can We Go Pro on the Cakewalk" It was a catch-up phrase to think about it. And sure it can Publish it. (The Cakewalk)
 
I think I made the right choice since I guess all the Upgrades are almost worth the price. But Now? I am short of money, to many Family, to many Fatherhood.
 
Shine On!
 
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Re: Were to begin? Help Wanted. 2015/01/16 06:30:45 (permalink)
So where have you been for the last year?

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Re: Were to begin? Help Wanted. 2015/01/16 17:34:59 (permalink)
I have not been here in the Forum since everything was working great with Sonar. Now with this new business model I was looking at all the reply of my post and Wow there were so many.
 
Shine On!
 
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