Opening X1d projects in X3d

Unfortunately I'm not around when Support is open, so I'm hoping someone will see this here. I'm trying to open some old X1d projects in X3d. They take about 5 minutes to open, and clicking play, for example freezes up Sonar. I've tried manually removing all plug-ins, but even trying to remove a Send, for example, may result in locking up Sonar X3d. Are others having success with X1d projects in X3d?
 
Thanks!

I suspected that so much had changed that it would be better to save the project as an X3d project before doing anything else with it, so I tried that. I haven't tried it as a bundle, however. Good suggestion.
 
If there's a solid recommendation that seems to work in most cases, we should coerce CW into creating a page in the manual for converting old projects to new.

Eugene perhaps you can give us some constructive advice on how to resolve this specific issue next time? Otherwise I would suggest lobbying for X3E on another thread (this doesn't help us at all).
 
Brian please let us know how this panned out, I'm hoping converting it to a bundle and then a project may help.
 
Thanks...

I record in X1d and mix in X3d.  I've never had a session freeze (that wasn't plugin-related *StevenSlate is 90% the culprit*).
 
Maybe start troubleshooting from the start, even if it seems lame and wasted time :(
For example, create a blank project in X1d.  Save it.  Open it in X3d.  That ok?
Now go back and create a project in X1d, record a single track.  Open in X3d.  That ok?
New project in X1d, record track, add some plugs you often use.  Maybe 1-3.  Open in X3d.  That ok?
Continue till fail in that fashion.
 
If a blank project kills X3d, I'm not sure what to do.

So if you updated your X1 project with the latest version of the Wave plugins (still using X1), and then upgraded to X3 with the latest (same versions) of the Waves plugins would there be any issues along the way? Of course Sonar does not update Waves plugins automagically in either X1 or X3.
 
>  It takes two parties to make an incompatibility
 
Nope. In the land of software generally it's one party that has the issue, and both get the blame for it as the end user can only guess and "assume" as to what is happening as they don't have access to the source code, nor are they developers. Of course sometimes it can be difficult to identify which is which. That's not to say it doesn't happen either but often (not always) it's generally down to one party.

Ya something like this is often a real PITA for the end-user because you have to make damn sure you don't need to open up the offending plugin/software 6-months down the road when the client wants to do more work or continue on with the project.  Otherwise known as, pissing off the client, because your system is now incompatible with their project.
 
But the real reason it's a PITA is because one of the companies needs to step up and say they need to fix something.  I don't often hear that or read anyone admitting to a bug until the next release has been released and I'm reading it in the readme.  Meaning I'm working as if it's not going to be fixed, wasting time and jumping through hoops with work-arounds, all the while the party at 'fault' is busy on a fix that I could potentially just hang out with the older software and wait for till it's ready.
 
Curious to see if anyone has any experienced suggestions on this one.  Have you contacted Waves?  They are very very good IME with tech support.  I had some show-stopper issues that they helped sort a few weeks back.  I still have a nagging issue with their licenses not working with multiple projects open, but haven't had the time to provide them with a super-detailed response.  Point is, they do help and do respond often within the day.  Far better than most tech support I've run across... ;)

Not objecting, just trying to establish the facts...
 
So if you updated your X1 project with the latest version of the Wave plugins (still using X1), and then upgraded to X3 with the latest (same versions) of the Waves plugins would there be any issues along the way?