konradh
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Last Question About Offset
So, I disabled the O key to prevent unintentional entries into Offset mode; however, now I want to enter Offset mode quickly just to ensure that there are no offsets in a project; that is, to ensure all faders are at 0 in offset mode. The Sonar help does not indicate any way to get into Offset mode except for the shortcut key. Where might I find a menu option to get into Offset mode? Thanks.
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Kev999
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Re: Last Question About Offset
2014/01/05 18:07:16
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Apparently there's an Offset Mode toolbar button in the "Mix" module.
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Re: Last Question About Offset
2014/01/06 02:58:53
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Kev999 Apparently there's an Offset Mode toolbar button in the "Mix" module.
There is but that is new in X3 IIRC. I believe Konrad is using X1. As to the question, not that I know of. The only thing I can think of is to set up another keyboard shortcut but with something a little harder to press accidentally than "O".
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Re: Last Question About Offset
2014/01/06 03:34:45
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Kev999 Apparently there's an Offset Mode toolbar button in the "Mix" module.
There is but that is new in X3 IIRC.
I don't have X3, so it's not as new as you thought. I've just checked the Sonar 7 manual and I found it there too. It's one of those buttons you never notice and never use.
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Re: Last Question About Offset
2014/01/06 09:21:38
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Kev999
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Kev999 Apparently there's an Offset Mode toolbar button in the "Mix" module.
There is but that is new in X3 IIRC.
I don't have X3, so it's not as new as you thought.
I've just checked the Sonar 7 manual and I found it there too. It's one of those buttons you never notice and never use.
Sorry my mistake. I could have sworn that was a feature introduced or reintroduced recently. My memory is shot obviously.
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Re: Last Question About Offset
2014/01/06 18:15:44
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It must be a slightly different location then, because the Control Bar didn't exist prior to X1.
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Re: Last Question About Offset
2014/01/06 18:19:55
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stevec It must be a slightly different location then, because the Control Bar didn't exist prior to X1.
It was in the Automation toolbar in Sonar 7.
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Re: Last Question About Offset
2014/01/06 18:36:34
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Re: Last Question About Offset
2014/01/06 21:13:55
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Apologies again for all the time I have taken from you fine folks on my automation woes.  Since we are talking, however, in the Mix module in my Control Bar I see Mute, Solo (and its modes), Echo, Read, Write, PDC (delay comp), and FX (toggle all effects off/on). What does this elusive Offset tool look like? AND BY THE WAY, one thing Cakewalk really needs to fix is to ensure they include pictures of tools. I can't tell you how many times I have seen something in the help like, "Click the Track Morphing Tool" with no description, picture, or location.
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Re: Last Question About Offset
2014/01/06 22:39:57
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I'm telling you, believe me or not, the Offset function is screwed up. Opened a different project. • Went into Offset mode to ensure I did NOT have any Offsets before I began final mix. • Some of the tracks showed the + indicating Offset; some did not. • If there is no offset, the fader should go to zero. Many did, but some went to -INF. • I had to go through track by track, setting every fader to 0 in Offset mode; but sometimes I had to go through this procedure more than once for a given track—the tracks that had neither the + nor the segmented line that indicates normal mode. NOte that I have an mp3 and wav export of the project in question; but when I opened the project, the mix sounded ridiculous. This happens to me all the time. I promise you, there is something majorly screwed up.
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Re: Last Question About Offset
2014/01/07 00:36:24
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konradh What does this elusive Offset tool look like?
 The button labelled K.
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Re: Last Question About Offset
2014/01/07 02:32:19
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I can't swear to it 'cos I don't have it installed any more but I'm fairly sure that the offset button in the mix module wasn't in X1, re-introduced in X2 (not X3 as I first thought). I remember thinking that it was going to be much easier to realise I was in offset when I saw it back. Anyone confirm my thoughts?
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Re: Last Question About Offset
2014/01/07 04:28:13
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FastBikerBoy I can't swear to it 'cos I don't have it installed any more but I'm fairly sure that the offset button in the mix module wasn't in X1...
It looks like you are correct. Here's a screenshot that I found by googling: http://www.americanmusica...1_Screenshot_large.JPGI can't see an Offset Mode button anywhere on the toolbar.
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Re: Last Question About Offset
2014/01/07 12:09:08
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Same here - the only reference I can find for Offset Mode in X1 is the "O" keyboard shortcut. Konrad, perhaps it would be better to assign Offset to an unused modifer + letter combination instead of completely unbound, that way at least it's accessible!
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Re: Last Question About Offset
2014/01/07 17:08:06
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Bit of an irony here. As soon as someone finally wants to use this overlooked facility, it turns out that he has the only version that doesn't include it.
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Re: Last Question About Offset
2014/01/07 17:41:26
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Thanks for the picture! That's great. Correct, I do not have this in X1. Currently, I am entering Offset mode to check a project and ensure all Offsets are null. Then I disable the O key and mix the project. Before I start the final mix of the next project, I enable O once again to check. Obviously on new projects this won't be an issue unless the ghost in my machine turns offset on while I'm sleeping.
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