Export unprocessed, separate tracks

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2014/01/07 12:21:10 (permalink)

Export unprocessed, separate tracks

Hi!
 
May be obvious for those who knows already but I don't find a function for this.
 
I've recorded a project intended to be mixed/mastered at another facility, so I have to send the tracks untouched, unprocessed and at the level they were recorded.
 
If I use the Export function, all tracks seem to be sent with their level applied even if everything is unticked in the menu, so I understand I have to manually reset all fader levels to zero and make sure channel interleave is set to mono
 
Would I be better drag/dropping the files directly to the desktop from Sonar?
 
How do youguys do this?
 
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    CJaysMusic
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    Re: Export unprocessed, separate tracks 2014/01/07 15:38:22 (permalink)
    This is what i tell my clients who use Sonar:
    1. Select one track at a time. you can do this by clicking the upper left corner of the track or you can solo the track.
    2. Now select the time-line line. You should export each track form  measure 1, beat 1. You can do this by hovering your mouse over the time-line and dragging it in the time-line you want to include in the export. This ensures that when I import them, they will all line up.
    3. Then you select File / Export / Audio. (continue below)
    Now your export window will come up.
    1. In the look in drop down box, you define the export location to the spot you want your exported file to go.
    2. For the file Name, you type the name you want.
    3. For File type, you select wave
    4. For the Source Category, you should select Main Outs or Entire Mix
    5. The Sample Rate should be at the original at which you recorded the project at
    6. The Bit Depth should be 24
    7. The Dithering should be unchecked. Do not dither
    8. Make sure all your appropriate boxes are checked. Especially the 64bit engine and Fast bounce. (Some non-native synths may not like fast bounce. If you run into one of them, just disable fast bounce and it will export)
    9. When you’re done with all of the above, press export.
     
    Hope this helps
     
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    Re: Export unprocessed, separate tracks 2014/01/07 17:09:34 (permalink)
    Dyonight
    If I use the Export function, all tracks seem to be sent with their level applied even if everything is unticked in the menu, so I understand I have to manually reset all fader levels to zero and make sure channel interleave is set to mono.

     
    This should not be the case unless there is a bug.  Per Sonar's documentation - "Track Automation. If you don’t check this option, any volume and pan automation, including initial volume and pan settings, is ignored when creating the new file(s). The amplitude of the raw data in the tracks is used, and the pan is C, or centered."
     
    Have you actually tried this?  I seem to recall trying it once (e.g., setting fader to zero prior to exporting) and it worked as expected (audible track exported).  
     
     

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    Re: Export unprocessed, separate tracks 2014/01/07 17:12:03 (permalink)
    If they all start at the same time goto the audio folder and copy the audio files to a new directory and use those files for sending to your outside person. 

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    Re: Export unprocessed, separate tracks 2014/01/07 17:12:10 (permalink)
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    This is what i tell my clients who use Sonar:
    1. Select one track at a time. you can do this by clicking the upper left corner of the track or you can solo the track.
    ...
    1. For the Source Category, you should select Main Outs or Entire Mix
     

     
    Good god this must take forever!  This is not necessary.  Select source category "tracks" instead of "entire mix" and you can do all your tracks at once.  
     

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    Re: Export unprocessed, separate tracks 2014/01/07 17:14:42 (permalink)
    John
    If they all start at the same time goto the audio folder and copy the audio files to a new directory and use those files for sending to your outside person. 




    This only works if you have made no edits to your tracks.  Not very likely for many users.  For a more general approach, use File/Export/Audio.  It is a very powerful, flexible tool within Sonar.  I only wish it had an option to export takes separately.

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    Re: Export unprocessed, separate tracks 2014/01/07 17:15:36 (permalink)
    Also if they are BWF you don't have to worry about when they start. 

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    Re: Export unprocessed, separate tracks 2014/01/07 17:17:59 (permalink)
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    John
    If they all start at the same time goto the audio folder and copy the audio files to a new directory and use those files for sending to your outside person. 




    This only works if you have made no edits to your tracks.  Not very likely for many users.  For a more general approach, use File/Export/Audio.  It is a very powerful, flexible tool within Sonar.  I only wish it had an option to export takes separately.


    If they are unprocessed as the title is suggesting that should not be a problem.  

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    Re: Export unprocessed, separate tracks 2014/01/07 17:55:13 (permalink)
    Good god this must take forever!

    Yea, i don't know what i was thinking!!

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    Re: Export unprocessed, separate tracks 2014/01/07 19:26:05 (permalink)
    save as to same folder, different name 
     
    control A
     
    right click, bounce to track (all tracks will bounce as one clip)
     
    control A
     
    drag all clips so they start at they start on the downbeat. I go to 0. (beginning of timeline)
     
    Save as to different hard drive into new folder with name of your choice using "per project folders" 
     
    The tracks in the audio folder will be all unprocessed (unless they clips had clip effect) and they will be lined up to import elsewhere.
     
    If they had clip FX, you could hit FX button the control bar at the top opf sonar to disable effects globally. This way, when you bounce to clip, the effects will not print.
     
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    Re: Export unprocessed, separate tracks 2014/01/07 19:51:25 (permalink)
    very nice! Got it, thanks to all!
     
    I'll go for the last option since I bounce my clip when editing are done and to apply special effects.
     
    Cheers!

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