I just can't get over this elephant painting a picture of himself

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2014/01/09 22:19:01 (permalink)

I just can't get over this elephant painting a picture of himself

Mind boggling....
 


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    Re: I just can't get over this elephant painting a picture of himself 2014/01/10 00:17:36 (permalink)
    I read online that the elephant has been trained to do that.  Check this out:
     
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZxSPSWxwjI
     
    I love 'em!
     
     
     
     

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    Re: I just can't get over this elephant painting a picture of himself 2014/01/10 01:23:36 (permalink)
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    I read online that the elephant has been trained to do that.  Check this out:
     
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZxSPSWxwjI
     
    I love 'em!
     

     
    Yeah well I didn't think they'd taught themselves 
    I'm still mighty impressed though.....
     

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    Re: I just can't get over this elephant painting a picture of himself 2014/01/10 01:45:10 (permalink)
    And there seems to be a whole row of painters in the background!
    I couldn't spot the slightest sign of this being manipulated, so I guess I have to believe it's true.
    Unbelievable, IMO. Many (most?) people couldn't draw an elephant as well.

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    Re: I just can't get over this elephant painting a picture of himself 2014/01/10 04:01:52 (permalink)
    That is awesome, thanks for sharing. 
     
    Quite a while back I remember watching vids about; Dog skateboarding and Surfer Dog. . I would probably falloff after the first tailslide maneuver :P 
     
     

     
     
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    Re: I just can't get over this elephant painting a picture of himself 2014/01/10 07:05:23 (permalink)
    Can't help wondering how many hours or days or weeks it took to get them to do that, and what kind of mental and physical stress the animal was put under. Maybe none, maybe far too much.. Seen some nasty stuff reported about elephant 'training' in India.

     
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    Re: I just can't get over this elephant painting a picture of himself 2014/01/10 08:14:24 (permalink)
    In the link I provided, it says there is a trainer next to the elephant and he will pull on its ear to make it paint in a certain direction.  It they are trained to follow that kind of command, then it seems logical that that they could learn how to do the whole picture themselves in time.  Just pondering...

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    Re: I just can't get over this elephant painting a picture of himself 2014/01/10 08:21:36 (permalink)
    I trained a herd of elephants once.  It was very messy.  I admit that I went through a few elephants before I finally managed to fit the steam engine inside one of them.  Some of the others objected to installation of the axles at first.  I went to a great deal of effort to hollow out one to make a dining car only to find that no one really wanted to eat inside it.
     
    All in all, the result was rather disappointing.  I probably wouldn't choose to do it again.
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    Re: I just can't get over this elephant painting a picture of himself 2014/01/10 11:03:43 (permalink)
    Have to say thet elephant has a pretty steady hand...oops, I mean trunk.

    Kind of remarkable. I do hope though they aren't being abused in the training process.

    Broken pencils are pointless.

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    Re: I just can't get over this elephant painting a picture of himself 2014/01/10 12:28:25 (permalink)
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    Can't help wondering how many hours or days or weeks it took to get them to do that, and what kind of mental and physical stress the animal was put under. Maybe none, maybe far too much.. Seen some nasty stuff reported about elephant 'training' in India.


     
    Seems you're on the right track mate: Elephant Rescue and Asia Survival Foundation
     
    Here's the blurb for anyone who can't access the link from work:
     

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    Re: I just can't get over this elephant painting a picture of himself 2014/01/11 06:07:25 (permalink)
    What do you get if you run inside of an elephant for a long time?
     
    You get pooped out...

     
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    Re: I just can't get over this elephant painting a picture of himself 2014/01/11 08:35:09 (permalink)
    I'm aware of cruel methods used in animal training of all kind. That is totally unacceptable, no matter how "dumb" or "clever" the species. I do wonder, though, why couldn't something like painting, or whatever, be tought to them with acceptable methods. 
     
    Elephants are intelligent animals. Why wouldn't they enjoy "brain training" the same way dogs, dolphins and apes do? I can't see anything wrong in guiding the painting by squeezing the ear. I'm not saying the info in the link above is false in anyway, but I don't allow myself to jump to  conclusions too fast. And phrases like " It's a myth that elephants are talented, because they can paint" or "circus tricks are degrading and cause mental trauma" are so naive that they throw a shadow on the credibility of the whole site.
     
    There was nothing in the slide show about painting that worried me, but the life of, say, the trekking elephants, isn't nice to watch. It's like the life of working horses in western world 100+odds years ago. Another question, then, is how many "failing" painters, that never get to perform, are treated with heavy hands during the process.
     
    Also, wouldn't a stressed, mistreated elephant be a very risky animal walking around among tourists in groups (like in the video, you see many unchained ones). "Tame" elephants do attack at people all the time. An animal doing something that it doesn't do in the wild does not automatically mean the animal is suffering or mistreated.
    (Wild elephants do make marks in the sand with their trunks, AFAIK)

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    Re: I just can't get over this elephant painting a picture of himself 2014/01/11 14:46:45 (permalink)
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    I'm aware of cruel methods used in animal training of all kind.

     
    But enough about getting drummers to show up on time.


     


     
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    Re: I just can't get over this elephant painting a picture of himself 2014/01/13 08:34:17 (permalink)
    We come in when we feel it or when there's becan involved.
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    Re: I just can't get over this elephant painting a picture of himself 2014/01/13 08:58:55 (permalink)
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    I'm aware of cruel methods used in animal training of all kind.

     
    But enough about getting drummers to show up on time.
    ...


    I have seen animals train themselves, and it was not an issue for them. I had a bird that I kept his cage open and he ended up liking me sitting at the computer and he would perch in my shoulder and play with my hair and ears. I didn't train him!
     
    We had a rabbit in Brazil, that used to come up to the dinner table when everyone was eating, and he would tap the feet of a chair a dozen times or so and then sit there, and look at us!
     
    We had a little monkee in Brazil that was smart, and he knew when to go pottie and where. We didn't teach him, but I think he figured out they must be sitting for some reason.
     
    We had a parrot that learned to talk, and you could say hello, and he would reply OK, and you? He picked it up from his young days, and his only annoying bit was that if he caught someone arguing (gonna happen with so many kids!), he would start screeching until we stopped!
     
    There are smart animals out there. And sometimes we think that we didn't learn from many of them in the first place! We might have learned "love" by ourselves (hahaha!!!), but I doubt that we didn't learn about sex from them!
     

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    Re: I just can't get over this elephant painting a picture of himself 2014/01/13 10:27:15 (permalink)
    Moshkiae
    but I doubt that we didn't learn about sex from them!
     


    I just don't know if I can put up much longer with all this talk about sex.
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    Re: I just can't get over this elephant painting a picture of himself 2014/01/13 13:21:18 (permalink)
    My ex bought one of those in Thailand.  I suspect that she did not know about the abuse involved in the training, but I doubt that would have stopped her from buying it :(
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    Re: I just can't get over this elephant painting a picture of himself 2014/01/13 13:27:27 (permalink)
     
    Moshkiae
     
    There are smart animals out there. And sometimes we think that we didn't learn from many of them in the first place! We might have learned "love" by ourselves (hahaha!!!), but I doubt that we didn't learn about sex from them!
     


     
    I think you might be anthropomorphizing a little.
     
    Calling some of the things that animals do 'smart', or more accurately what humans consider 'smart', can really allude to actions that are maybe just 'cute'.
     
    In reality, what we might consider 'smart' things that animals do are those actions that prevent them getting eaten.
     
     

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    Re: I just can't get over this elephant painting a picture of himself 2014/01/13 13:32:12 (permalink)
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    but I doubt that we didn't learn about sex from them!
     


    I just don't know if I can put up much longer with all this talk about sex.



    Almost making you go outside and look for a couple of squirrels to video tape again?

     
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    Re: I just can't get over this elephant painting a picture of himself 2014/01/14 08:16:44 (permalink)
    SteveStrummerUK
     
    Moshkiae
     
    There are smart animals out there. And sometimes we think that we didn't learn from many of them in the first place! We might have learned "love" by ourselves (hahaha!!!), but I doubt that we didn't learn about sex from them!
     


     
    I think you might be anthropomorphizing a little.
     
    Calling some of the things that animals do 'smart', or more accurately what humans consider 'smart', can really allude to actions that are maybe just 'cute'.
     
    In reality, what we might consider 'smart' things that animals do are those actions that prevent them getting eaten.



    Nahhh ... I just think that we consider ourselves so damn superior sometimes, but we make guns and bombs to go kill people! No difference!

    As a wise Guy once stated from his holy chapala ... none of the hits, none of the time ... prevents you from becoming just another turkey in the middle of all the other turkeys! 
      
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