Sonar X2 32bit Windows 7 and Liquid Mix

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2014/01/15 18:26:15 (permalink)

Sonar X2 32bit Windows 7 and Liquid Mix

Hoping for some help on this one please anyone! I have upgraded to Sonar X2 and Windows 7 32bit. I am trying to get my Liquid Mix (32) to be recognised by Sonar. I have set the Firewire drivers to Legacy and the Liquid Mix works fine with Soundforge 9 on the same machine so its not Firewire, or Liquid Mix app. I know Focusrite do not support Sonar 64bit. I went for Windows 32bit as I had no intention of running Sonar 64bit - the PC is a good Dell but about 4 years old now. Now I need to ask a stupid question - as the Sonar X2 update was a digital download I don't have the DVD and therefore an option to install the X86 or X64 version. Can I assume the digital download will only install the X86 version on a Windows 7 32bit sytsem? Assuming so I can find nothing that says Liquid Mix won't work with Sonar X2 32bit, but no matter what I do (including trying jBridge) Sonar can't see the device. Yet others say they can get it to work. I have asked this question of the Cakewalk support team but sadly after asking twice have had no resoponse over the last couple of weeks. It may be that only they can confirm if the digital download is 32 or 64 bit. Thank you in advance for any advice anyone can offer!
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    Re: Sonar X2 32bit Windows 7 and Liquid Mix 2014/01/15 18:38:25 (permalink)
    Hello
     
    http://uk.focusrite.com/downloads?product=Liquid+Mix
     
    So I see on version 3:
     
    The following DAW/Platform combinations are not supported by Liquid Mix. -64bit Sonar (no change)
     
    So the info was last updated 3+ years ago. I suggest contacting Focusrite and asking them why they don't support it for Sonar X3D 64 bit, I'd be interested to know. Maybe the situation might have changed, it could have been some issue with Sonar which has now been fixed.

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    Re: Sonar X2 32bit Windows 7 and Liquid Mix 2014/01/15 18:39:27 (permalink)
    The X2 installer (DVD and download) contains both 32 and 64 bit versions of SONAR. Running the installer on 32bit Windows will install the 32bit version of SONAR. Running the installer on 64bit Windows presents an option to install the 32bit or 64bit version of SONAR.
    post edited by scook - 2014/01/15 19:08:14
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    Re: Sonar X2 32bit Windows 7 and Liquid Mix 2014/01/15 22:27:34 (permalink)
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/m/tm.aspx?m=2347848


    Might be worth at least trying 64 bit. Check out the whole thread.

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    Re: Sonar X2 32bit Windows 7 and Liquid Mix 2014/01/15 23:16:26 (permalink)
    Just to let you know, I have run LiquidMix 32 on Sonar 64bit for years, and now using X3D Producer. Running JBridge 1.5, it works like a charm. I know this is a dumb question, but have you included the location of the LiquidMix dll. file in your plugin scan in Sonar?
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    Re: Sonar X2 32bit Windows 7 and Liquid Mix 2014/01/16 03:43:57 (permalink)
    Hello,
     
    I have LiquidMix running on win 7 x64.Too bad it's not supported anymore (no windows 8).
     
    Set the legacy Firewire Drivers and use Jbridge.
    http://jstuff.wordpress.com/jbridge/
     
    That works for me:
    Install latest LiquidMix Drivers
    Install the JBridge beta v1.6 (I had graphical glitches with 1.5.Try both)
    Set all JBridge .exe  and sonar to "Run as administrator" (compatibility in properties)
    Make a plugin scan with disconnected LiquidMix (I had scan to hang with hardware connected)
    Acknowledge that hardware is disconnected.
    Open plugin properties and check the launch using JBridge box
    Connect the liquidmix
     
    There you go...Works for me
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    Re: Sonar X2 32bit Windows 7 and Liquid Mix 2014/01/16 06:18:51 (permalink)
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    post edited by CakeAlexS - 2014/01/16 08:53:11

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    Re: Sonar X2 32bit Windows 7 and Liquid Mix 2014/01/16 07:44:29 (permalink)
    The liquid mix is now a Legacy Focusrite product. It won't be updated nor be sold anymore.
    So,the only solution is to either use windows x86 (xp/vista/7) or windows seven and JBridge.
    Even windows 8 x86 won't work since legacy firewire drivers are needed and none are available
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    Re: Sonar X2 32bit Windows 7 and Liquid Mix 2014/01/16 17:59:42 (permalink)
    Thanks everyone for contributions to help me with this - really appreciated. Thanks to Phil at support for getting back to me and sorry its been such a busy time with help requests recently.
     
    Got it working... Not 100% sure what I was doing wrong, but am convinced it was my own daftness. So I pointed the plugin manager to the specific Focusrite folder where the DLLs were installed and pressed OK. I wrongly assumed they would be rescanned, either at that point or on restarting Calewalk. This time I pressed the 'rescan VST' button and LiquidMix appeared. Thought I'd done that before, but you know how it is when you 'think you've done something'. Finally had to enable LiquidMix as a 'Plugin' (had read it was a VST Instrument / Synth but I found it had to be a plugin) and all is working now. I have a latency that was not there in XP and Cakewalk 8.5, but that could be the Firewire Legacy drivers we have to use for this bit of kit, or a setting I need to look at, but am wrapped to have it working again. I know its sadly a discontinued bit of kit but it is so handy.
     
    Thanls again all who have offered suggestions. First time I've needed help despite owning Cakewalk since about 1998 so all good and reassuring.
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    Re: Sonar X2 32bit Windows 7 and Liquid Mix 2014/01/16 18:06:52 (permalink)
    Glad you got it going!
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    Re: Sonar X2 32bit Windows 7 and Liquid Mix 2014/01/16 18:12:55 (permalink)
    I'd still love to know why the 64 bit version 3 drivers aren't supported on X3D, assuming it works for other DAWs (64 bit), and whether it will actually work 64 bit native.

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    Re: Sonar X2 32bit Windows 7 and Liquid Mix 2014/01/16 20:58:51 (permalink)
    Well, I just tried to run it w/o jbridge and it shows up as a 32 bit plug. I'm pretty sure that 64 bit support is referring to the device driver. The plugs are still 32 bit though. Same thing with powercore there is a separate 64 bit driver but 32 bit plugs.

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    Re: Sonar X2 32bit Windows 7 and Liquid Mix 2014/01/17 13:05:21 (permalink)
    I'm just thankful for jBridge. I bought Liquid Mix when it was fairly new, before the huge price drop a few years ago. I'd hate to have a $800 paper weight.
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