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2014/01/16 20:19:52 (permalink)

Recording MIDI from A-PRO knobs in Sonar X2 - What am I missing?

I have Sonar X2 on Win 7 64bit and a Roland A-800PRO. The A-PRO has been working well for a few months now, it has been set up according the this guide:  
 
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The A-PRO works as expected, while the console is in focus it controls track volume sliders and pan, while vst fx are in focus it controls them, I can easily program which controls are mapped to the A-PRO's knobs and sliders, and all is right with the world.
 
Last night I wanted to record a control change to midi, for a filter on a track. I cannot, for the life of me, get the rotary knobs to send a midi signal to Sonar that I can record. I've set up a control map in the A-PRO Editor and assigned parameters to R3 as in the tutorial above, but I don't receive midi on the track in Sonar even with input set to all midi devices and omni.
 
I do get midi from the stick, and was able to control the cutoff in Fabfilter Micro with the wheel. If I load Micro as an instrument I can set midi learn to use the stick, record this to a track and then send the output to Micro, and it works as expected. However the stick on the A-PRO is not optimal for riding the cutoff freq in Micro, and I really want to use a rotary to get it just right.
 
What am I missing? I feel like it must be something obvious, but I've run through everything I can think of, along with checking over everything mentioned in the two threads at the top of this section that seem to describe similar issues.
post edited by robotecho - 2014/01/17 19:30:37

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Re: Recording MIDI from A-PRO knobs in Sonar X2 - What am I missing? 2014/01/17 07:25:35 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby robotecho 2014/01/17 19:30:10
You forgot to post the link to the guide?
 
Anyway, if you transmitted Control Map 19 (SONAR ACT Map 2) from your A-800Pro to the A-Pro Editor and assigned the filter message (#74?) to the R3 knob and then transmitted the map back to A-800Pro's map #19, that's a bad idea. This is because every time you launch Sonar the program automatically transmits SONAR ACT MAP 2 to your A-800Pro's map #19 (that's why the LCD says "Receiving...," overwriting the map you edited.
 
The only way I know to achieve your goal here is to transmit the map you edited in the A-Pro Editor to one of maps #1-#18. By doing this, when you want to record controller data using the A-Pro's knobs, sliders, etc, you just turn the Value knob to change the map from #19 to #18. After finish recording, switch it back to map #19.
 
Also, make sure you choose "PORT 1" from the Output Port drop-down when you assign a message in the A-Pro Editor. MIDI tracks in SONAR block incoming data sent via Port 2 once ACT is enabled, even if "Omni" is selected for the MIDI track's input.

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Re: Recording MIDI from A-PRO knobs in Sonar X2 - What am I missing? 2014/01/17 19:28:04 (permalink)
Hi Jlien, thanks so much for the reply. The guide I used was this one:
 
(OK, looks like I can't post links, I must still be a spam threat)
 Home » [Hardware Products] » Keyboard Controllers & Sound Modules » [UPDATED] Configuring Your A-Pro to Work With/Without ACT
 
I'll have a close look at your post and try it out when I get the chance, looks like this is more complicated than I thought! 
post edited by robotecho - 2014/01/17 19:30:03

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