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2014/01/21 10:45:20 (permalink)

A just bought...

... a new video camera!!
 
I'll prolly play with it for 6 months and then it'll be consigned to the bottom of the "to play with" pile through lack of time/ideas/imagination. Just like my other toys.
 
Unless...  someone can come up with a half decent project I could work on with it.
 
The main reason I got it was because I've been playing with computer graphics on and off for the past 30 years.  Every time I get proficient new software or a new version comes out or computers get more powerfull and can do more things and I start again at square 1.
I'm currently (re)learning Blender and this latest version does full motion/camera capture allowing you to composite GC onto video right out of the box.  Here's one of the latest offerings created entirely in Blender, Tears of Steel.
 
I don't expect to produce anything along those lines,  maybe a 3 minute music video...  who knows..  For now I just love playing with the technology.
 
I got one of these. It's being delivered tomorrow.

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Re: A just bought... 2014/01/21 12:18:13 (permalink)
Congrats on the new toy!!
 
Of note, I saw this in the software forum:http://forum.cakewalk.com/Hitfilm-xpress-now-free-through-feb-4th-m2972606.aspx for a free version of Hitfilm Xpress and it seems to be a good product (for free :))
 
Not sure how this compares to Blender as I haven't done any type of video editing......but, always wanted to.

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Re: A just bought... 2014/01/21 12:36:27 (permalink)
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Re: A just bought... 2014/01/21 14:58:04 (permalink)
Dang!  I don't remember Blender being able to do anything like that!

 
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Re: A just bought... 2014/01/21 15:04:44 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2014/01/21 15:13:59
Do you know how large the video movies will be? very large.
 
Take a video of a buffalo(s) maybe.
 
 

 
 
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Re: A just bought... 2014/01/21 15:18:35 (permalink)
Speaking of toys, I'm getting mine tomorrow as well.
 
 

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Re: A just bought... 2014/01/21 18:30:55 (permalink)
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Do you know how large the video movies will be? very large.

 
i have a 50" TV so I'm guessing they'll be about 50"....

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Re: A just bought... 2014/01/21 18:36:28 (permalink)
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Do you know how large the video movies will be? very large.

 
i have a 50" TV so I'm guessing they'll be about 50"....


Meebee, but that's only the DIAGONAL!!!  What about the "other" dimensions?  Some scientists think there's as many as ten or more! 

 
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Re: A just bought... 2014/01/21 18:42:29 (permalink)
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Do you know how large the video movies will be? very large.


i have a 50" TV so I'm guessing they'll be about 50"....


Meebee, but that's only the DIAGONAL!!!  What about the "other" dimensions?  Some scientists think there's as many as ten or more! 
but how does that explain Bubba?

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Re: A just bought... 2014/01/21 18:48:02 (permalink)
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Do you know how large the video movies will be? very large.


i have a 50" TV so I'm guessing they'll be about 50"....


Meebee, but that's only the DIAGONAL!!!  What about the "other" dimensions?  Some scientists think there's as many as ten or more! 
but how does that explain Bubba?


For that we must use Silly String theory Karyn!
 
(It has at least ten dementias. )

 
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Re: A just bought... 2014/01/21 18:58:23 (permalink)
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Do you know how large the video movies will be? very large.


i have a 50" TV so I'm guessing they'll be about 50"....


Meebee, but that's only the DIAGONAL!!!  What about the "other" dimensions?  Some scientists think there's as many as ten or more! 
but how does that explain Bubba?


For that we must use Silly String theory Karyn!
 
(It has at least ten dementias. )

I wish I could think of something clever to say but I'm to poorly

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Re: A just bought... 2014/01/21 19:10:31 (permalink)
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The main reason I got it was because I've been playing with computer graphics on and off for the past 30 years.  Every time I get proficient new software or a new version comes out or computers get more powerfull and can do more things and I start again at square 1.
I'm currently (re)learning Blender and this latest version does full motion/camera capture allowing you to composite GC onto video right out of the box.

I was relearning Blender up until September when I got sidetracked into Sonar-land again. Haven't even looked at Blender since then except to see how the new UI debates are going. I was working on a short that tied into an acting demo reel I'd been working on and I came up with an idea for the music which turned into a full-fledged song which turned out to be perfect as a theme song for a feature film script a friend is writing, so I upgraded Sonar, started relearning how to do the mixing side of things and here it is almost six months later and Blender's been through two updates and I've completely lost track of it... (sigh)
 
Anyway, it's nice to see I'm not the only one who dabbles in CG, video and 3D animation as well as music.

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Re: A just bought... 2014/01/21 19:58:31 (permalink)
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Karyn
The main reason I got it was because I've been playing with computer graphics on and off for the past 30 years.  Every time I get proficient new software or a new version comes out or computers get more powerfull and can do more things and I start again at square 1.
I'm currently (re)learning Blender and this latest version does full motion/camera capture allowing you to composite GC onto video right out of the box.

I was relearning Blender up until September when I got sidetracked into Sonar-land again. Haven't even looked at Blender since then except to see how the new UI debates are going. I was working on a short that tied into an acting demo reel I'd been working on and I came up with an idea for the music which turned into a full-fledged song which turned out to be perfect as a theme song for a feature film script a friend is writing, so I upgraded Sonar, started relearning how to do the mixing side of things and here it is almost six months later and Blender's been through two updates and I've completely lost track of it... (sigh)
 
Anyway, it's nice to see I'm not the only one who dabbles in CG, video and 3D animation as well as music.




WOW!  That is one hell of a sentence in the middle there!
 
(The last time I looked into Blender was back when I was thinking of using it to design a house - the 3D type you can walk through.  I don't think it had any video or sound capabilities back then!)

 
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Re: A just bought... 2014/01/22 06:08:25 (permalink)
craigbWOW!  That is one hell of a sentence in the middle there!

 Thanks for noticing. I worked very hard on that (phew!).
 
craigb(The last time I looked into Blender was back when I was thinking of using it to design a house - the 3D type you can walk through.  I don't think it had any video or sound capabilities back then!)

Yup, it's come a long way in just a few years. Since I started relearning it in 2010, all kinds of new features have been added (don't remember now exactly which ones) and it was tough to keep up as the changes came down the pike. Maybe I should have waited because the new tab thing Jonathan is working on looks like it's going to make things a lot easier.

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Re: A just bought... 2014/01/22 08:39:17 (permalink)
Hi,
 
As much as I am a film person, what with 500 foreign film reviews and such, I have never ventured to the video side of things. Don't really know why, but up until 10 years ago, the price of those things was way too prohibitive for me to even think about it. Didn't help that my boss' son, at the time was one of those spoiled 18 years old, and off my film/music thing he ended up with a $1500 camera (this is 2000!) and then went to film school in Vancouver BC for a full year. Needless to say, I was sad and cried, being that I had 4 screenplays, had showed him my film that had music by Kevin Ayers (he graciously allowed me to use the music), and its ethereal style of story and sound/music effects.
 
He never did anything with the film, and came home even more messed up after a year.
 
All of my "visual" work has gone to writing. I have wanted to film a lot of it, but it simply was not there or happened.
 
I wanted to film the artist Vina White that I worked with in the 90's. She's still the best artist of anyone I have ever met, and no one will touch anything, to the amount and quality of work that she had produced in that time, while we did a few psychic shows and various art shows around the area. In the end, her family did not like film, or the arts, and they were not going to allow her to fly the coop, and a process that is so beautiful to watch, and fast, will never be seen or appreciated by anyone else.
 
Things like this, along with Guy Guden's Space Pirate Radio that I have over 400 hours saved, now for over 35 years, are the "touches" of pure artistry that I have been lucky enough to see all my life, and the rest is simply not worth discussing, and I always wanted to put it on film. That is WHAT film is all about, the grand moments. And I have a knack for getting them and did when I was directing in theater, and even in the films I did.
 
I will likely get me a cheapie video camera and do a couple of things. But I'm dis-illusioned. The two best artists I have ever met, were so far and away on par and further than any music and artist I have ever loved, and they could not, or did not want to share their life. It's like it was not art for them, but just their skin, and they didn't want to see it again! No matter the "art" that came out of it. Vina's work is buried and she gave me a closet full, because I had spent so much money to get her going, and Guy's work, is buried but only discussed in one thread at the Prog Archives board, and he is not wanting to share the fun and the times he had then, unless he is the star of the show, and "art" is not about a star and his cock!
 
I've lost the desire to film anything. Maybe, it is that I am not inspired, though the stories keep on coming in my head and what I see ends up written, as I work though a couple of novels, in the past few months, but all in all ... I don't know that I will ever pick up a camera again.
 
It feels like ... the true "art" is not to be seen. EVER. Don't ask me why!  Sometimes I think that I am around too many people whose vision is too superficial in order to help develop the inner vision that much further and better be able to create something ... I just don't know. Only time will tell!
 
But I love to see Karyn saying she got a camera.
 
The wild eyed child awakes and
... sees ...
we look at the child
and have no idea
but their eyes look at you,
you look at the child
and wonder ...
and wonder ...
the child's attention waves,
and they see something else
as their legs move
and the arms shake
and the kid smiles
looks at you smiles again ...
you can see it now ...
the wild eyed child sees ...
you ...
and you remember the day
and the night
just like yesterday
or a minute ago
when you saw something,
anything
and smiled
...
and the camera caught it!
 
WOOOOOTTTT!
post edited by Moshkiae - 2014/01/22 08:52:25

As a wise Guy once stated from his holy chapala ... none of the hits, none of the time ... prevents you from becoming just another turkey in the middle of all the other turkeys! 
  
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Re: A just bought... 2014/01/22 08:48:40 (permalink)
Some of the new smart phones have pretty amazing resolution (my Samsung Note 3 can create 4K video though I only use 1080p since I have nothing to watch 4K video on yet!).  Add to that free tools like Blender and you could probably have a lot of fun for very little cost.

 
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Re: A just bought... 2014/01/22 08:56:44 (permalink)
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Some of the new smart phones have pretty amazing resolution (my Samsung Note 3 can create 4K video though I only use 1080p since I have nothing to watch 4K video on yet!).  Add to that free tools like Blender and you could probably have a lot of fun for very little cost.

 
I think one of the reasons why I have stopped doing film/video, and lost a lot of my ability to even enjoy it (can't drive at night safely, not enough foreign film on video/net), is strictly because I can not see things that well in that small environment of a cell phone. It's already really hard that I can barely make out the buttons and at the store I have to take my glasses off and put my nose near the machine to punch in 4 numbers on the card reader.
 
I'm kinda left with music, and writing, and just wanting to let my imagination fly, because those are the two right now that are easier for me to do so with. Sadly, music will probably be gone soon, because I need some help with it, and am not getting any. But I have not been able to get the help I need in music and this is frustrating for me. Doesn't matter who I ask.
 
It's OK. I'm prepared to go, and let all the work go by the toilet. It's not about me, anyway!
post edited by Moshkiae - 2014/02/02 17:53:18

As a wise Guy once stated from his holy chapala ... none of the hits, none of the time ... prevents you from becoming just another turkey in the middle of all the other turkeys! 
  
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Re: A just bought... 2014/01/22 12:52:12 (permalink)
Congrats on the new toys, kids.  Have lots of fun with them.  

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Re: A just bought... 2014/01/22 13:29:09 (permalink)
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Hi,
 
 what with 500 foreign film reviews and such



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Re: A just bought... 2014/01/22 13:49:39 (permalink)
Blender is one of the best freebies available and puts lots of people commercial software to shame. Although you can do video game diting in it, it is best used to supplment video editing software rather than be the primary . I reccomend taking advantage of the hitfilm freebie offer or if you want a more traditionall workflow, grabbing the lighworks freebie. Lightworks has a higher learning curve but the format has been used to edit tons of oscar nominated films. Hitfilm is very capable and much easier to learn but has a more new school approach.
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Re: A just bought... 2014/01/22 14:17:38 (permalink)
Who is "A"?
A Martinez?

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Re: A just bought... 2014/01/22 15:29:42 (permalink)
A is one of my alter egos. Her full name is A Typo...





Blender isn't an editor, it's 3D graphics software. I'll have a look at those freebie editors though.

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Re: A just bought... 2014/01/22 15:41:01 (permalink)
Maybe while you're getting up to speed Karyn we can help out by coming up with titles for your movies!
 
Like "Public Sleeping Places For Homeless Drummers" or "Things I've Randomly Shot" for example. 

 
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Re: A just bought... 2014/01/22 16:00:48 (permalink)
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Maybe while you're getting up to speed Karyn we can help out by coming up with titles for your movies!
 
Like "Public Sleeping Places For Homeless Drummers" or "Things I've Randomly Shot" for example. 


"Didn't Know Camera Was On"
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Re: A just bought... 2014/01/22 16:12:49 (permalink)
The Minister of Bell End

 
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Re: A just bought... 2014/01/29 17:56:08 (permalink)
Some street musicians make more money than a lot of other musicians.
(file size for the large movies - large!)
Make that buffalo really big.

 P.S. I did not know what I posted was so helpful, but Thanks!
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Buffalo Bill when he was young (back in 1847 or so.)
 

 
 
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Re: A just bought... 2014/01/30 17:47:27 (permalink)
File from the Blues Fest last July was 5:02 minutes long, so that is 312mB file which is only recorded at 30 frames/sec and only HD Ready which is only 1280x720 resolution. Using full resolution with your videocam (1920 x 1080 and 60 frames/sec) I am only estimating for those who may not know but probably around 750mB or 3/4 of a Gigabyte or so.
Well, that is about it.

And all of them compress the file to a certain extent when recording.
 

 
 
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