Glyn Barnes
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Hugh Padgham kit for BFD
Repeat after me "I don't need any more drums", But Hugh Padgham Big Fill Kit for BFD2 The "Hugh Padgham Big Fill Kit" is a sampled drum kit with uniquely massive vintage ambient tone featuring a fat kick and snare along with the famous "barking toms" sound in the style of Phil Collins songs like "In The Air Tonight" and "I Don t Care Anymore". Hugh Padgham is a legendary producer/engineer who has worked with artists such as Genesis, Phil Collins, Peter Gabriel, Sting, The Police and many more. One of the most famous sounds he is known for is that BIG drum sound from the 80s heard on albums like Peter Gabriel's "Melt Face" 3rd album, Phil Collins Face Value and Hello I Must Be Going albums and Genesis Abacab and the Genesis "Mama" album. Sonic Reality took a trip to Surrey, England with Hugh Padgham to go back into Genesis studio called "The Farm" to capture this amazing drum sound in the studio's unique "stone room" recorded an the SSL™ console. The same studio and engineer that produced countless hits in the 80s, 90s and beyond is now captured as part of Hugh's new drum sample library with Sonic Reality, the Hugh Padgham Big Fill Kit!
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Re: Hugh Padgham kit for BFD
2014/01/25 10:47:45
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Glyn Barnes Repeat after me "I don't need any more drums",
Ehr...yeah...ok....
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Re: Hugh Padgham kit for BFD
2014/01/25 16:37:55
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Glyn Barnes Repeat after me "I don't need any more drums",
Actually BFD3 helped me in that regard immensely. The included kits are so good, I really don't care for what I've heard out of expansions. I actually decided to get one. It was on a heavy sale and like $30, so I said why not? Well "why not" is because the included samples are so far superior there's no way I'll make use of it. It is extremely hard to stack up to what BFD3 ships with, which makes me less interested in buying more.
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twaddle
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Re: Hugh Padgham kit for BFD
2014/01/25 19:16:29
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Glyn Barnes Repeat after me "I don't need any more drums",
Actually BFD3 helped me in that regard immensely. The included kits are so good, I really don't care for what I've heard out of expansions. I actually decided to get one. It was on a heavy sale and like $30, so I said why not? Well "why not" is because the included samples are so far superior there's no way I'll make use of it. It is extremely hard to stack up to what BFD3 ships with, which makes me less interested in buying more.
I have to agree with that you'll struggle to find better kits out there as good as those that come with BFD3, but that said it does depend to a large extent on what your preferred genre is. FXpansion have quite a wide variety of kits like their excellent 8 bit kit to name but one that you won't find anything close with the BFD3 kits. It's all about variety and as much as I like platinum samples kits I don't love them all. I got the Andy Johns Classic and the Joe Baressi kits recently and I'm really (I mean seriously) NOT a fan of metal or heavy rock which these kits are obviously made for so I don't think I'll find much use for them Steve
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Re: Hugh Padgham kit for BFD
2014/01/25 19:44:50
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twaddle I got the Andy Johns Classic and the Joe Baressi kits recently and I'm really (I mean seriously) NOT a fan of metal or heavy rock which these kits are obviously made for so I don't think I'll find much use for them
Which begs the question, why *DID* you buy them?
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twaddle
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Re: Hugh Padgham kit for BFD
2014/01/25 19:55:23
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2014/01/25 19:55:30
l guessed someone would ask. l was asked by Rail to download the BFD3 installers to see if there were any issues so l got lucky. its funny but they both sound very processed to me and thin. Steve
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Re: Hugh Padgham kit for BFD
2014/01/25 20:35:49
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Funny, I love those expansions. I think evil drums is my favorite of all expansion packs for all drums vstis. I think I have every or almost every expansion for BFD, SD 2, SSD 4 and have dozens of drum products for Kontakt. Yes I have a problem. :)
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bapu
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Re: Hugh Padgham kit for BFD
2014/01/25 20:45:18
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gmon72 I think I have almost every or almost every expansion for BFD, SD 2, SSD 4 and have dozens of drum products for Kontakt. Yes I have a problem. :)
Ah, but as well do you have all but two EZDrummer packs, all Voxengo kit pieces, Studio Cat Purrfect Drums, Bluenoise Plugins Rock and Metal kits, Ocean Way Drums for Infinite Player, all Addictive Drums expansion packs and Jamstix 3 plus all expansion packs (including Jamcussion)? If so, welcome brother.
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gmon72
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Re: Hugh Padgham kit for BFD
2014/01/25 21:39:12
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bapu
gmon72 I think I have almost every or almost every expansion for BFD, SD 2, SSD 4 and have dozens of drum products for Kontakt. Yes I have a problem. :)
Ah, but as well do you have all but two EZDrummer packs, all Voxengo kit pieces, Studio Cat Purrfect Drums, Bluenoise Plugins Rock and Metal kits, Ocean Way Drums for Infinite Player, all Addictive Drums expansion packs and Jamstix 3 plus all expansion packs (including Jamcussion)? If so, welcome brother.
Yes on ezdrummer packs, studio cat( which I never use, I think I have 2 sets of Jim's drums actually), ocean way infinite player, ocean way gold , (before infinite player), sonic reality drum masters gold, a boatload of other sonic reality infinite player kits from various group buys, epik drums, drumcore 3 with 4 preordered, jamstix 3 with all expansions, a bunch of acousticasamples kits, all NI Abbey road series vintage-modern sets, studio drummer, drumasonic 2 and drumasonic luxury. I actually had all of Addictive Drums paks as of 2 years ago, but that's one of two drum plugins I've ever sold (other was linplug rmiv). I couldn't get into AD, I thought the sound was so weak compared to everything else I have. I haven't tried bluenoise. Also have my eye on analogue drums. I like the sound of the demos. Nice to know I'm not alone out there :)
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Glyn Barnes
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Re: Hugh Padgham kit for BFD
2014/01/25 23:25:15
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Bapu has me beat but I have got most of the EZx except the most recent two or three and the electronic. I have Custom & Vintage, Roots mallets and Brushes and Metal Foundry SDx. The Metal Foundry SDx has been my "go to " kit for a while, I probably use this more than the rest put together. I have got Steven Slate Platinum, which I never seem to use. Neil Peart drums and a few others for Kontakt (Waves Factory Tea towel Drums are nice) And Now BFD 3. As others have said, the factory kits are exceptional, I just need to get more familiar with the interface. I fired up Addictive Drums a few times since getting it with Sonar X3 and it did not grab my attention, I guess its decent enough and has a low footprint but I got it shortly after BFD3 Finally I will upgrade my Kitcore to the lite version of the new 64 bit Drumcore 4, I am doing this mainly for more unusual kits, the Luis Conte percussion and the decent midi loops, which are in a propriatory format until you drag them to a track. I already made the advance purchase to get the voucher and I will probably use that on their 40's Kit.
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bapu
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Re: Hugh Padgham kit for BFD
2014/01/25 23:27:32
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bapu
gmon72 I think I have almost every or almost every expansion for BFD, SD 2, SSD 4 and have dozens of drum products for Kontakt. Yes I have a problem. :)
Ah, but as well do you have all but two EZDrummer packs, all Voxengo kit pieces, Studio Cat Purrfect Drums, Bluenoise Plugins Rock and Metal kits, Ocean Way Drums for Infinite Player, all Addictive Drums expansion packs and Jamstix 3 plus all expansion packs (including Jamcussion)? If so, welcome brother.
Yes on ezdrummer packs, studio cat( which I never use, I think I have 2 sets of Jim's drums actually), ocean way infinite player, ocean way gold , (before infinite player), sonic reality drum masters gold, a boatload of other sonic reality infinite player kits from various group buys, epik drums, drumcore 3 with 4 preordered, jamstix 3 with all expansions, a bunch of acousticasamples kits, all NI Abbey road series vintage-modern sets, studio drummer, drumasonic 2 and drumasonic luxury.
I actually had all of Addictive Drums paks as of 2 years ago, but that's one of two drum plugins I've ever sold (other was linplug rmiv). I couldn't get into AD, I thought the sound was so weak compared to everything else I have.
I haven't tried bluenoise. Also have my eye on analogue drums. I like the sound of the demos.
Nice to know I'm not alone out there :)
It's like lookin' in a mirror. Except I imagine you're prettier.
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twaddle
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Re: Hugh Padgham kit for BFD
2014/01/26 08:54:00
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gmon72 Funny, I love those expansions. I think evil drums is my favorite of all expansion packs for all drums vstis. I think I have every or almost every expansion for BFD, SD 2, SSD 4 and have dozens of drum products for Kontakt. Yes I have a problem. :)
Actually I should probably take back most of what I said as I hadn't really given them enough time. The evil drums stuff I do like but I felt I already have stuff that's quite similar with the BFD3 content, but some of the Andy Johns classic kits sound too thin for my liking, especially the kicks. It's one of the things I really don't like about metal drums, the kicks sound horribly thin and clicky, I know that they need to be eq'd that way as when you're playing two kick drums that fast you need something to cut through the mix in order to hear it, that's the kind of metal that to my ears is the sonic equivalent of having a pair of woodpeckers strapped to both ears and one of things I really dislike about that whole genre, perhaps speed metal, more than metal is the right term. But I really don't get that kind of drumming, clever it might be but it sounds crap to my ears. Sorry, I know this forum is full of metal fans who'll no doubt take issue with the above but each to their own eh ? Rant over Steve
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Re: Hugh Padgham kit for BFD
2014/01/26 11:57:38
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Steve, I take no exception to you not liking metal and especially metal drums. You are right on WRT why metal kick drums are "usually" thin. It's all about the attack not the boom. The bass usually takes care of the boom in metal (IMHO).
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twaddle
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Re: Hugh Padgham kit for BFD
2014/01/26 18:49:50
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bapu Steve, I take no exception to you not liking metal and especially metal drums. Cool, so that's one down 10.000 to go You are right on WRT why metal kick drums are "usually" thin. It's all about the attack not the boom. The bass usually takes care of the boom in metal (IMHO).
What is WRT ? Steve
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Re: Hugh Padgham kit for BFD
2014/01/26 19:30:20
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No metal here. 60s-80s rock then singer songwriter, indie rock onward.
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Re: Hugh Padgham kit for BFD
2014/01/26 19:36:18
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twaddle What is WRT ?
With Regard To
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Re: Hugh Padgham kit for BFD
2014/01/27 03:59:05
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We hired a bassist and guitarist for the Andy Johns sessions so he could EQ the drums to fit correctly in a track... They're made to sound like his drum recordings when used inside a song. I've never heard anyone say that Joe's samples are thin.... The demos are all flat... With no additional EQ or Compression... https://www.platinumsamples.com/JoeBarresi.phpWe also produced Kits 1 through 4 of the BFD3 factory kits, which follow a very similar production style to our other expansion packs. Cheers, Rail
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Re: Hugh Padgham kit for BFD
2014/01/27 08:14:58
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bapu
gmon72 I think I have almost every or almost every expansion for BFD, SD 2, SSD 4 and have dozens of drum products for Kontakt. Yes I have a problem. :)
Ah, but as well do you have all but two EZDrummer packs, all Voxengo kit pieces, Studio Cat Purrfect Drums, Bluenoise Plugins Rock and Metal kits, Ocean Way Drums for Infinite Player, all Addictive Drums expansion packs and Jamstix 3 plus all expansion packs (including Jamcussion)? If so, welcome brother.
Amen! But I still want these for Kontakt (I'm sick...). I also read that they (Sonic Reality) will be producing additional libraries with Hugh to reproduce kit sounds from other artists he produced over the years. Regards, Dan
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Re: Hugh Padgham kit for BFD
2014/01/27 08:16:21
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Mixing is all about control. My music: http://dancumpian.bandcamp.com/ or https://soundcloud.com/dcumpian Studiocat Advanced Studio DAW (Intel i5 3550 @ 3.7GHz, Z77 motherboard, 16GB Ram, lots of HDDs), Sonar Plat, Mackie 1604, PreSonus Audiobox 44VSL, ESI 4x4 Midi Interface, Ibanez Bass, Custom Fender Mexi-Strat, NI S88, Roland JV-2080 & MDB-1, Komplete, Omnisphere, Lots o' plugins.
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Re: Hugh Padgham kit for BFD
2014/01/28 00:49:47
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rail, do you have presets or straightup kits for your bfd3 kits. I may have gotten out of sorts with the betas, but all my kits and presets tagged as bfd3 are blues, county,rock, etc. jm or ... DV,
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Re: Hugh Padgham kit for BFD
2014/01/28 07:31:33
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gmon72 rail, do you have presets or straightup kits for your bfd3 kits. I may have gotten out of sorts with the betas, but all my kits and presets tagged as bfd3 are blues, county,rock, etc. jm or ... DV,
I posted a Basic Preset for BFD3 Kit 1 in the thread on the FXpansion BFD3 forum. Cheers, Rail
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Re: Hugh Padgham kit for BFD
2014/01/28 08:30:44
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bapu Steve, I take no exception to you not liking metal and especially metal drums. You are right on WRT why metal kick drums are "usually" thin. It's all about the attack not the boom. The bass usually takes care of the boom in metal (IMHO).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Vi2s2PS_Ng listen to this track (from the last decent Entombed album - released in 1991!) the kick is playing solo quite a lot, esp from about 0'30, and for me is the perfect metal kick sound - plenty of attack but lots of weight too. I agree too much modern extreme metal bands have an awful clicky sound - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03RuMkTOWoU Fleshgod Apocalypse have an amazing drummer but the kick is awful
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Re: Hugh Padgham kit for BFD
2014/01/28 08:55:35
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Thanks Rail. I had grabbed that one. Just wanted to make sure I hadn't missed other ones.
Just played evil drums last night while practicing. Still love that pack.
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Re: Hugh Padgham kit for BFD
2014/01/28 12:48:50
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bapu Steve, I take no exception to you not liking metal and especially metal drums. You are right on WRT why metal kick drums are "usually" thin. It's all about the attack not the boom. The bass usually takes care of the boom in metal (IMHO).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Vi2s2PS_Ng listen to this track (from the last decent Entombed album - released in 1991!) the kick is playing solo quite a lot, esp from about 0'30, and for me is the perfect metal kick sound - plenty of attack but lots of weight too. I agree too much modern extreme metal bands have an awful clicky sound - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03RuMkTOWoU Fleshgod Apocalypse have an amazing drummer but the kick is awful
If only it were just the kick sound that made this kind of stuff unlistenable to my ears. The second track is a perfect example of the kind of cluttered and totally unrhythmic kick style that is as I mentioned, akin to having a pair of woodpeckers strapped to either side of your head and then being thrown in a tumble dryer. Sorry, just not my cup of tea. Steve
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Re: Hugh Padgham kit for BFD
2014/01/28 18:56:13
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Yeah, it's all a matter of taste. I love how the Andy Johns and other Platinum Samples kits sound in the demos (I still haven't picked any up yet, I'm sure I will grab some next sale). But I have a ton of kits already. I was looking at the lists everybody has and I think a lot of us are drumaholics. I have a ton of the Sonic Reality Drums, including Neil Peart Drums and other series, Ocean Way Drums, Steven Slate Drums, Superior Drums and expansions, Additive Drums and expansions, ezDrummer and expansions, NI Studio Drummer, NI Abbey Road 60s Drums, BFD Eco, Waves Factory's Tea Towel Drums and more and I'm still looking at additional kits. I suppose even though I chose and unimaginative screen name, it is fitting. As far as the Hugh Padgham Phil Collins "In the Air" kit it sounds excellent in demos for what it is. I don't know that I'd have much use for that sound. I would prefer more of a Phil Collins 70s era Squonk kit, but I'll probably still end up picking it up! Further, it seems everyone I've heard anything about BFD 3 from is saying great things. I suppose that's on my list too. Hello, my name is Peter and I'm a sampleholic... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ_3g2hUCn4
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