How to view each take lane separately in staff view?

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2014/01/25 09:06:39 (permalink)

How to view each take lane separately in staff view?

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If I have done, say, five different drum takes on separate lanes, I then will want to see each of them individually for editing. For some reason I cannot be able to do that. I right click on the separate clip on a specifik take lane and choose "staff view" which contains every note for every take made. If I choose the main drum track (where each chosen lane for the moment resides) it is the same issue. What am I missing? I have no intention of flatten comp or anything. I just want to see the separate lanes individually in staff view w/o every note from every lane being visible as well, as it is now.
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    garrigus
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    Re: How to view each take lane separately in staff view? 2014/01/25 09:28:15 (permalink)
    You're not missing anything... it's just not possible. The workaround is to use the In-Line Piano Roll View in the Track view. Choose Notes in the Edit Filter for each of the Take Lanes.
     
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    Re: How to view each take lane separately in staff view? 2014/01/25 09:38:14 (permalink)
    What I've been doing is:
     
    1) Select all clips you do NOT want to see or edit in PRV then Right Click > Mute/Unmute or simply press K on the keyboard
     
    2) Select the clip you DO want to work on > Right Click > Views > PRV or double click the clip (if you have double click set to open PRV)
     
    3) In the PRV context menus (top of the PRV) select View > Hide Muted Clips
     
    Now only the notes in the clip you have selected will be in the PRV.
     
    However if you are going to add NEW notes to that Clip, depending on the mode you are in, what may happen is the new notes will appear in a new lane and the Lane (not the clip)will possibly be muted so you won't hear them. If you have Lanes open when this new clip is created you will not see it and won't be able to unmute it. To fix this simply close the lanes and reopen them again and unmute the lane. I think this may be a bug or things getting screwed up by unintended behavior.
     
    After you are done editing bounce the new clip with the original and they should merge.
     
    Using Overwrite mode (from the Record button options) may put the notes directly in the clip you are working on but I haven't tried it yet and I'd rather keep my new data separate until I bounce anyway.
     
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    Re: How to view each take lane separately in staff view? 2014/01/25 09:42:42 (permalink)
    Thanks for your answers. This is however a major let down, since I exclusively use the staff view. Right now for finishing off some backing tracks for a full length prog-metal album before entering the studio within two months. So it's basically only the PRV roll that can do this as per Beepsters info?

     
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    Re: How to view each take lane separately in staff view? 2014/01/25 09:50:56 (permalink)
    Not sure why that wouldn't work for you. Do you want the other clips audible as well but just don't want to see them? If that's the case just toss each clip into its own MIDI track and delete the ones you don't need. Then you can use the Track Filter on the right hand side of the PRV to filter through the different clips as needed and everything will remain audible (unless of course you mute something).
     
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    Re: How to view each take lane separately in staff view? 2014/01/25 09:52:03 (permalink)
    Oh, sorry. You meant Staff View. Yeah... I don't know how any of this would work for that as I don't use SV at this point.
     
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    Re: How to view each take lane separately in staff view? 2014/01/25 11:24:17 (permalink)
    Hi John, I too use staff view almost exclusively and have not found a workaround. Very annoying/disappointing. You have to copy the take to a new midi track to edit the take exclusively (a real PITA!). Staff view and take lanes just don't play well together. Unfortunately, from the staff view posts here in the forum and CW's lack of input/responses, it doesn't look promising for us staff view users.
     

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    Re: How to view each take lane separately in staff view? 2014/01/25 12:32:18 (permalink)
    Yes, it seems like copying the lane to a separate midi track is the only solution...

     
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    Re: How to view each take lane separately in staff view? 2014/01/25 12:41:14 (permalink)
    Just toss them in a folder. Shouldn't be a big deal and in X3 there is a new clip grouping scheme that will automatically group all clips within a folder for Track Pane edits so in theory it's kind of like what you'd want anyway. Perhaps better.
     
    But again I don't use SV so perhaps I'm not visualizing the workflow properly.
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