Sarik_CoC
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Problems with Oneshots
Hi,
I have a (possibly rather stupid) question. I need a specific Oneshot for a track, namely kick_32, which is located in the Oneshots folder which comes with Sonar X3.
When you preview it, it sounds awesome, but as soon as you drop it into the matrix view, it becomes totally mutilated, the same if you drop it in the audio track. Actually many samples seem to get distorted in that way.
The question would be: How can I produce the exact same sound that was previewed or, if this is not possible, how to record the preview sound?
Thanks!
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dubdisciple
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Re: Problems with Oneshots
2014/01/26 12:18:19
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It sounds like the clip is defaulting to loop mode and is being stretched out. right click on the clip and disable grooveclip looping.
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Sarik_CoC
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Re: Problems with Oneshots
2014/01/26 12:29:27
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Thanks for your reponse.
It changed the sound into the right direction, in the sense that the kick now has the correct duration of play. However, it still does not sound like the preview sample. It sounds like some kind of mutilated, distorted version of it.
Any other thoughts?
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dubdisciple
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Re: Problems with Oneshots
2014/01/26 12:36:03
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Hmmm. They should sound alike. I guess if this happened to me, I would troubleshoot by trying to account for every factor that could be different in my preview bus. I would check things like whether my preview bus had any effects or options that the track did not have and vice verse.
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Re: Problems with Oneshots
2014/01/26 12:39:11
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☄ Helpfulby Sarik_CoC 2014/01/26 12:43:06
First, you'll want to enable Preview with Host Tempo option (right-click the Media tab) to hear what it's going to sound like in your project. And if it sounds bad, the only real solution is to run your project at a tempo closer to the native tempo of the clip. there are limits to how much you can stretch/compress a sample without having the quality suffer. Stretching (i.e. the project tempo is lower than the sample's base tempo) tends to be more destructive. P.S. I'm not finding any such sample in Oneshots, but it could be I just haven't loaded content from some version since I don't normally use it. What's the path?
post edited by brundlefly - 2014/01/26 12:47:38
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Sarik_CoC
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Re: Problems with Oneshots
2014/01/26 12:44:38
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Ah... it was the tempo. Thank you very much for your help!
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Re: Problems with Oneshots
2014/01/26 12:47:19
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brundlefly
First, you'll want to enable Preview with Host Tempo option (right-click the Media tab) to hear what it's going to sound like in your project. And if it sounds bad, the only real solution is to run your project at a tempo closer to the native tempo of the clip. there are limits to how much you can stretch/compress a sample without having the quality suffer. Stretching (i.e. the project tempo is lower than the sample's base tempo) tends to be more destructive.
I thought of that, but that should not be an issue at all with one shots. A one shot should play the same regardless of tempo. There should be no stretching. I even thought that it could be a conversion thing if his project rate is set differently than the sample rate of the file, but the preview and what he places in project should be subject to the same conversion process. I'm sure it's something really simple, just can't figure it out at the moment.
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Re: Problems with Oneshots
2014/01/26 12:48:20
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Sarik_CoC
Ah... it was the tempo. Thank you very much for your help!
Are you sure your sample is a one shot?
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Re: Problems with Oneshots
2014/01/26 12:52:48
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dubdisciple
Are you sure your sample is a one shot?
That's a good question. I assumed from the description of the problem that it is a loop. But, you're right, it shouldn't be if it's in the Oneshots directory. I don't seem to have that sample, so maybe it's 3rd-party...?
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Sarik_CoC
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Re: Problems with Oneshots
2014/01/26 13:08:22
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Hm...the file was in the oneshots main folder and I didn't install any third party loops.
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Sarik_CoC
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Re: Problems with Oneshots
2014/01/26 13:13:17
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Ok, I have some additional information.
It seems that the sound we wanted only works in the preview, if Preview with Host Tempo is enabled. The original tempo seems to be much faster.
However, as soon as we drag the Oneshot in the matrix view it reverts to its original tempo.
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Re: Problems with Oneshots
2014/01/26 13:14:02
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I'm going to try and find that sample.
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Re: Problems with Oneshots
2014/01/26 13:55:56
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I can't seem to find that sample either. I'm also lost on why it is faster. One shots should sound exactly the same regardless of tempo.
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Sarik_CoC
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Re: Problems with Oneshots
2014/01/27 07:31:12
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That is very curious. I actually installed nothing but Sonar on that machine.... X3 Producer that is. Well... thank you very much for your help. I will start to Experiment with some other Oneshots and see, what it produces.
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