craigb
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Opinion questions for the drummers out there
You know who you are! I'm about to sell the entire V-Drum/SPD-20 kit below (except for the drum throne which I just love). I just broke down all of the parts, went out to eBay and got a basic idea of what each part is worth. That said, I will NOT be using eBay, but will be selling locally on Craigslist. That means I won't have to deal with shipping and I also won't have to lose 20+% of the net to eBay (which is about what I'm averaging lately since they take small listing fees, then 3% PayPal fees followed by 10% of the gross which includes whatever I get for shipping...). Ok, enough yapping, here are the pictures of the kit followed by a chart of the prices I got off of eBay - the opinion questions will be right after those.  Ok, here are my questions: 1) To sell the entire kit LOCALLY, as is, what should I ask for? About half? My goal is to move it quick without really screwing myself. 2) Do you think I should sell the SPD-20 separately from the rest of the kit? If so, same pricing questions - how much for each? Thanks a lot!
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craigb
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Re: Opinion questions for the drummers out there
2014/01/29 17:26:19
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Oh yeah, forgot to mention. I'm a guitarist not a drummer so there's far fewer hours on the kit than normal.
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craigb
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Re: Opinion questions for the drummers out there
2014/01/29 18:49:12
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bapu
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Re: Opinion questions for the drummers out there
2014/01/29 19:05:16
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I'll take the SPD-20 off yer hands for 2 CHB mugs and 3 Tees.
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bapu
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Re: Opinion questions for the drummers out there
2014/01/29 19:06:10
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Scerially tho, Ya, sell the SPD-20 separately. Can't say what price as we live in different economic worlds.
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Re: Opinion questions for the drummers out there
2014/01/29 19:14:22
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Re: Opinion questions for the drummers out there
2014/01/29 20:01:46
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Check out the vdrums forums. I've bought some stuff there, and it's a pretty decent bunch.
http://www.soundclick.com/riprorenband The music biz is a cruel and shallow money trench,a plastic hallway where thieves & pimps run free and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side. Hunter S. Thompson
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craigb
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Re: Opinion questions for the drummers out there
2014/01/29 20:17:19
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rsp@odyssey.net Check out the vdrums forums. I've bought some stuff there, and it's a pretty decent bunch.
I guess I should have guessed that there would be one, eh? Sounds like the SPD-20 should be separate then! Good to know. Thanks for the replies! (Any drummers out there like to throw out some suggested prices?).
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Re: Opinion questions for the drummers out there
2014/01/29 21:34:29
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"lose 20+% of the net to eBay (which is about what I'm averaging lately since they take small listing fees, then 3% PayPal fees followed by 10% of the gross which includes whatever I get for shipping...)."
Wow, really? I was just starting to set up an Ebay account so that I could sell off some old guitar and recording gear. Selling a guitar pick up for $25-35 hardly seems worth it if you are going to loose 33% of the sale.
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craigb
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Re: Opinion questions for the drummers out there
2014/01/29 22:08:25
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The 20% is net (so not 33% loss). The listing fees are very low now, but PayPal (which is almost required now) takes 3% of the TOTAL you receive, then eBay takes 10% of the TOTAL you receive. The reason it gets to around 20% for me is that the total includes the money you're given to ship the damn stuff! So if you get $100 to ship something heavy, you obviously don't get to keep it, you need to use it for what it's intended: Shipping. However, you now suddenly owe $13 to PayPal and eBay from that $100. Completely BS if you ask me.
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craigb
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Re: Opinion questions for the drummers out there
2014/01/31 01:18:50
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Good call on separating the parts! Looks like a friend will be buying the basic kit which I will deliver and setup for him tomorrow. The SPD-20 by itself is much easier to sell and ship anyway.
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craigb
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Re: Opinion questions for the drummers out there
2014/01/31 13:42:56
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And... The SPD-20 is now sold! Yay! Rent covered for another month. Hehe...
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bapu
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Re: Opinion questions for the drummers out there
2014/01/31 16:38:11
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Re: Opinion questions for the drummers out there
2014/01/31 16:41:01
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As someone who intends to eventually piece together a workable V-Drum kit (like start with the kick, snare, hats and one cymbal pad then work my way up) they really are kind of a decent modular sell unlike a real drum kit. Two things I'm wondering though... a) um... shouldn't there be kick pads? I thought the kicks were a pad unit. b) Would Armorall damage V-Drum pads in any way? Because if I were selling those and it didn't I'd give those buggers a quick swipe to get then a little more prettified. From the V-Drum thingies I've handled seems like a little Armorall wouldn't hurt but IDK.
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Re: Opinion questions for the drummers out there
2014/01/31 16:43:37
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Beepster As someone who intends to eventually piece together a workable V-Drum kit (like start with the kick, snare, hats and one cymbal pad then work my way up) they really are kind of a decent modular sell unlike a real drum kit. Two things I'm wondering though... a) um... shouldn't there be kick pads? I thought the kicks were a pad unit. b) Would Armorall damage V-Drum pads in any way? Because if I were selling those and it didn't I'd give those buggers a quick swipe to get then a little more prettified. From the V-Drum thingies I've handled seems like a little Armorall wouldn't hurt but IDK.
Armorall Shmarmorall In post #11 - he sold the kit In post #12 - he sold the SPD-20
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bapu
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Re: Opinion questions for the drummers out there
2014/01/31 16:46:08
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Beepster a) um... shouldn't there be kick pads? I thought the kicks were a pad unit.
It craig's was like one of my two, the beater goes forward to about a downward 30 degree angle and hits a very small pad that is indistinguishable in the photo.
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Beepster
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Re: Opinion questions for the drummers out there
2014/01/31 16:48:14
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Oh... I got confuzzled. I figured that was more than a basic kit (like... that's a lotta pads, yo even without the SP-20 or whatever). Still curious about the kicks and the Armorall.
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Re: Opinion questions for the drummers out there
2014/01/31 16:50:17
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bapu
Beepster a) um... shouldn't there be kick pads? I thought the kicks were a pad unit.
It craig's was like one of my two, the beater goes forward to about a downward 30 degree angle and hits a very small pad that is indistinguishable in the photo.
Freaky. I've only really seen the ones that look like either the snare (but bigger) or the "tom" pads.
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bapu
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Re: Opinion questions for the drummers out there
2014/01/31 16:51:06
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Beeps. I've got one of each. I'll post some pics when I get the chance.
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Beepster
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Re: Opinion questions for the drummers out there
2014/01/31 17:04:11
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Appreciated but don't go to that bother on my account. I believe you. If there's a part number though I could just look it up on the tubes. I'm assuming they are less expensive than the biggies too so it'd be nice to add to my list of things I can fool myself into thinking I may buy someday. The generic expression pedal that shipped with my padKontrol is... well... a bit unwieldy as a kick drum trigger. Leads to much PRV editing after the fact. And I will totally blame it on that and not that I suck at hitting things in a musical way. ;-) but seriously I need a better midi input solution for at least my kick sounds.
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craigb
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Re: Opinion questions for the drummers out there
2014/01/31 17:04:59
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The kicks use a "normal" pedal and beater (that's usable on any "real" drum set), but there's a small black part that goes behind the pedal that consists of a pad (for the beater to hit) and a connector so you can route it to the V-Drum brains. You need to put the beaters in a little different so that the pedal range is correct. As for cleaning, do NOT use ArmorAll or anything like it (the guys on the V-Drum forum were pretty insistent about that). The thing to use is something called "303 Aerospace Protectant" which is easily available online. Nothing else is recommended except using a damp cloth. The mesh heads however, have a couple of tried-and-true cleaning methods. You can actually take them off and put them in your dishwasher (on a gentle cycle) or carefully put them into a sink filled with warm water and a very mild detergent.
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Re: Opinion questions for the drummers out there
2014/01/31 17:13:43
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Sooo... they are like not making contact with anything? Not sure I understand. Guess I should just check your list for the part name. Currently I am using that danged expression pedal which kind of works but it's really weird. To get the best results I've turned it backwards and am hitting it with my heel instead of the front of my foot and it is full velocity or nothin'. Also double triggers like a prazzick which is annoying. Thanks for the info on the proper cleaning/polishing agent. I know Armorall can... well for certain things be not so good... thus my query. Neat thread. V-Stuff is cool. I want to talk an associate of mine into purchasing a V-Accordian. Those things are NUTS!
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bapu
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Re: Opinion questions for the drummers out there
2014/01/31 17:23:04
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Re: Opinion questions for the drummers out there
2014/01/31 17:35:32
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Aaaahhhh okay. That makes a heckuva a lot more sense. I was envisioning something really... well, stupid. If they make those standalone so I could just USB it or even MIDI DIN the bugger it would make my pK about a million times more usable. Two would be even more awesomelicious. They probably need a brain though. Will look into it. Thanks.
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