Road to Tabriz- New Mix_1-30-14

 
Road to Tabriz- New Mix_1-30-14
https://soundcloud.com/bats-brew/road-to-tabriz-new-mix_1-30-14
 
you can download the full bandwidth wav file if you want.
the wav file sounds so much better than the streaming..........
maybe the drums still need to be louder?
different mastering approach on this one as well, it's not as loud, but should be more dynamic.

a new mix approach, using a new drum kit, really mostly aesthetic changes,
but if anyone wants to compare to the original, here's the link:
https://soundcloud.com/ba.-brew/the-road-to-tabriz

Sounds great.  I would lift the kick up a .5 db.  Nice and smooth sound.  

I'm with Wookie, the second mix has more air, breathing space and better dynamics. You always seem to come up with some really nice guitar licks. I like the different drum kit sound as well. Nice one Gonzo. Now that this is done you can find some time to comment on others music so we can be as good as you. Thanks for sharing.
 
Peace and Blessings, John

Gonzo, I did download both versions, the wave form viewed, I mentioned above, were as Soundforge displayed them, the soundcloud view is a token gesture.

The song sounds very good.  I had some technical problems on my end that made listening a little choppy, but that has nothing to do with the quality of the tune, the performance, or the recording.  Time for a new PC.  

I haven't been around here fore some time, so I thought the first thing I wanna listen to should be something well performed, produced and inspiring. I made the right choice to pick this one !
I don't have the energy to go into some deep analysis at the moment... all I can say is that I really enjoyed this. 
 
Thanx!
 
Regards,
 
 

The kick sound and in fact a lot of the bass end is too woofy and deep. If ARC was so good it should have told you that immediately. Actually just checked again on my main monitors and not too bad overall but the kick is a little thumpy or something. I felt the snare was getting slightly lost too. Bass is too loud like most people do.

Yeah bats thanks for that. I went back and checked it out again on my small Auratone type speaker. I have got one of these and I feed an L+R signal to the speaker and check things way down low in volume. THIS is one of the ultimate ways of checking mixes. No ARC or anything required. Does not matter how your room sounds. The small speaker does not involve the room so it does not matter.
 
There were a few aspects of your mix that failed in the small speaker.
 
Kick sounded weak in the small speaker and that is because there is too much thump energy on larger systems but no real sound on the little speaker. It means the kick is lacking in upper tones and top end.
 
Snare and drums in general sounded a bit back.
 
Guitars too loud in general. Lead guitars overpowering everything else. Even the rhythm guitars too loud at times. Sounds like a guitarist mixed this!
 
Bass too loud as well on the little speaker.
 
I know that bass levels are a matter of taste and I appreciate that. I would drop it back a tad and bring it back into line. What happens when you do this is the rest of the spectrum starts to speak louder just naturally. Then your guitars might even be louder but you can then pull them down a tad too and push a few other things in there such as the drums and get that kick being a little more clear.
 
Look all just opinions of course as I know mixing is very subjective. I find though when I get everything right on the small speaker, my main monitors are just perfect and the mix is perfect everywhere else. Interesting don't you think. Cheaper and better than ARC IMO. It is such a simple little thing the small speaker but hardly anyone does it. Many great engineers all use to do it in the past.
 
It is a bit like VU meters we had them before but for some reason they are gone now. And for your interest the mix does not fair well on my VU's either and that is a bit of a bad sign. They are swinging wildly in parts, they drop down too low and go over a lot regularly. Means you are not controlling the dynamics properly yet for my liking on tracks and in the overall master. (BTW is it mastered yet because that could settle the VU's down a fair bit if it's not) They are not dancing well to the music (ballistics)
 
Sorry for being so picky. Music is great though! You are a great musician!

Waltenstein Studios
I don't need to say it's a ridiculous piece of songwriting and guitar wizardship.  The drum sound is stupendous.  Me=jealous.

 
That basically sums it up.  Awesome!

whoa, i thought this thread was LONG gone!
LOL
thanks for continuing to review this one folks..

olemon
well, thanks for that. that kit is a combination of several pieces, but mostly the new york avatar kit.


lynn
nice to hear someone using the horrortones.

i had access to a pair back in the mid 80's, i always appreciated what they showed me.
too many hyped monitors, can give false impressions.
the arc just helps me overcome issues in my room that i have not been able to correct for.
i'm still learning how to use it with my system.
i need to do another full round of readings, and move the monitors around a bit.
but thanks for the kind words.

BLUZDOG
thanks man, you are too kind.
appreciate it, glad you dig it

First time I've really heard your guitar work bats, did thoroughly enjoy it. Wookiee is right, you must have an extra couple of fingers, or something.
I can hear what Jeff is saying, the kick seems to come through with a real thump, and this weakens the other low frequencies somewhat. Not really sure if this matters in the scheme of things as the song stands up really well anyways. Not sure I agree with the bass being too loud, but then I'm a bass player so....
Great stuff, will look forward to more of your tracks.