Installing X3 on a drive other than C?

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2014/02/05 12:31:43 (permalink)

Installing X3 on a drive other than C?

Hi folks,
 
I just d/l'd the X3 demo and the installation routine would only install X3 onto my C partition. Does the regular full-install of Producer allow you to install on another partition besides C?
 
I got into the habit years ago, as a way of protecting my data in the event of a boot sector failure or other OS-related calamity, of installing the OS and OS-related utilities only onto the C partition. Everything else gets installed onto higher partitions.
 
I was able to install X2 onto a higher partition. I'm just hoping this installation onto C only just a "feature" of the trial version.
 
 

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    Re: Installing X3 on a drive other than C? 2014/02/05 12:46:13 (permalink)
    FYI you are aware the boot sector can go on any hard drive and you are able to boot off USB keys?
    Also please note the registry (where your apps settings are stored) will always be where you operating system is, so if your OS drive screws up your apps will still need to be reinstalled (unless you have a backup).
     
    What matters is which hard drive failed and whether you have a backup. I would also recommend RAID mirroring and Acronis True Image with an external storage facility such as an external hard drive.
     
    I suspect the demo and the full version will behave no different here. I would strongly recommend installing your apps on your OS drive until you run out of space (makes life a lot easier). What you are doing right now does nothing to reduce the chances of failure or recovery. What you really need to do is separate your data from your apps.

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    Re: Installing X3 on a drive other than C? 2014/02/05 13:45:05 (permalink)
    but install on c only?

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    Re: Installing X3 on a drive other than C? 2014/02/05 13:50:50 (permalink)
    I have all versions of SONAR, including X3, installed on a different partition from the O/S. I'm not sure why the demo did not allow that, but the full release will.
     
     

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    Re: Installing X3 on a drive other than C? 2014/02/05 13:56:52 (permalink)
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    but install on c only?

    I would

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    Re: Installing X3 on a drive other than C? 2014/02/05 14:52:20 (permalink)
    yeah weird, i just checked, the trial gives no choice of anything other than x86 or x64 version:
     

    Destination location:
          C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\SONAR X3 Producer Trial
          C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Vstplugins (VSTi)
          C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\ (Shared Components)
          C:\Cakewalk Content\ (Application Content)

    Setup type:
          Recommended installation

    Selected components:
          Program Files
          Audio Plugins
             PX-64 Percussion Strip
             VX-64 Vocal Strip
          MIDI Plugins
             MFX Arpeggiator
             MFX Change Velocity
             MFX Chord Analyzer
             MFX Echo/Delay
             MFX Event Filter
             MFX Quantize
             MFX Transpose
          Soft Synths
             Cakewalk Sound Center
          Sample Files
             Bundle (.CWB) Files
             Project (.CWP) Files
             Template (.CWT) Files
             Tutorial Files
             MIDI Groove Clips
          Libraries
             Drum Maps
             Instrument Definitions
             CAL Files
             Layouts
             Track Icons
             Track Templates

     

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    Re: Installing X3 on a drive other than C? 2014/02/05 15:16:27 (permalink)
    This is for optimal performance:
     
    C: Drive = For all programs, including SONAR
    D: or E: Drive = For Audio only (Sonar Projects)
    F: Drive = For Samples Only and SONAR Backups (if you do not have an external for backups)
    External Drive: =  For back-ups
     
     

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    Re: Installing X3 on a drive other than C? 2014/02/05 23:36:28 (permalink)
    CakeAlexS
    FYI you are aware the boot sector can go on any hard drive and you are able to boot off USB keys?

    Yes, I am aware of this.
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    Also please note the registry (where your apps settings are stored) will always be where you operating system is, so if your OS drive screws up your apps will still need to be reinstalled (unless you have a backup).

     
    Yes, I am aware of this also.
     
    CakeAlexSWhat matters is which hard drive failed and whether you have a backup. I would also recommend RAID mirroring and Acronis True Image with an external storage facility such as an external hard drive.

     
    I use an external drive for backups of data files only.
     
    CakeAlexSI suspect the demo and the full version will behave no different here. I would strongly recommend installing your apps on your OS drive until you run out of space (makes life a lot easier). What you are doing right now does nothing to reduce the chances of failure or recovery. What you really need to do is separate your data from your apps.

     
    This is not entirely correct. If my C drive fails, I will have to replace the OS and reinstall my applications (even if they are on a drive different from the OS because all those dlls and what have you are now gone.), but my data files will be safe on their separate drive. So in that respect, no recovery will even be necessary. I already store my data files separately from my apps. In this case, however, they are both stored on the same drive, just different folders. It is an easy enough task, however, saving the data files to a different drive. But given that Sonar likes to store segments of a project in all sorts of different areas -- especially audio segments --  I would just as soon that all these areas are someplace other than C:
     
     
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    This is for optimal performance:
     
    C: Drive = For all programs, including SONAR
    D: or E: Drive = For Audio only (Sonar Projects)
    F: Drive = For Samples Only and SONAR Backups (if you do not have an external for backups)
    External Drive: =  For back-ups
     


    Optimal, perhaps, but my machine has no problems running X2 from the E drive (Drive 2, partition 2). You know that little performance meter that Sonar has? With my system it barely comes off the stop, but I'm probably not taxing the system very hard. My most intensive setup so far is nine tracks, eight of which are soft synths, the last one is audio (guitar). I don't see my needs being much greater than that for the foreseeable future.
     
    lawp, I expect that this is a peculiarity of the trial version. brundlefly, thanks for confirming that it will install on a drive other than C.
     
     

    Best,

    Michael
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    Re: Installing X3 on a drive other than C? 2014/02/06 07:45:39 (permalink)
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    I got into the habit years ago, as a way of protecting my data in the event of a boot sector failure or other OS-related calamity, of installing the OS and OS-related utilities only onto the C partition. Everything else gets installed onto higher partitions.

     
    I do something similar to CJaysMusic although I also put my plugins on a separate drive (although this is unlikely to make any difference to my performance). My point was it's best to separate apps and data onto separate partitions (and ideally different drives) for exactly the reasons your describe (looks like you know this looking at your follow up post). However to push a point, I would strongly recommend looking into cloning your drives (one day you might thank yourself).
     
    Anyway glad you got your answer.
     
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    Re: Installing X3 on a drive other than C? 2014/02/06 08:29:11 (permalink)
    Cooltouch
    But given that Sonar likes to store segments of a project in all sorts of different areas -- especially audio segments --  I would just as soon that all these areas are someplace other than C: 
     


    Not sure I understand why you would make this comment. As;

    Sonar only saves a single project file with an audio file for each track or rendered audio clip. No more; and it only saves those files in one of 2 locations, either the project Audio folder if using Save per project audio folders or in the global audio folder if the former is not selected.

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    Re: Installing X3 on a drive other than C? 2014/02/06 08:55:15 (permalink)
    Right...
    Edit -> Preferences -> Folder Locations
    and  Edit -> Preferences -> Audio Data (inc use per project setting).
    and if you are feeling particularly brave, bundle files*
     
     
    * Apparently unreliable although I note nobody has come up with any issue yet with X3D or maybe even X3.

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    Re: Installing X3 on a drive other than C? 2014/02/06 11:54:32 (permalink)
    But given that Sonar likes to store segments of a project in all sorts of different areas -- especially audio segments -- I would just as soon that all these areas are someplace other than C:

    No it doesnt! SONAR stores all my audio where i tell it to and that is my E: Audio Drive.
     
    Your problem, if your seeing this, is that you do not have it set up to save it all on one Drive.

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