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2014/02/11 10:47:03 (permalink)

Mastering individual tracks in one project

I'm using Sonar X3 for mastering.  I have about 5 songs loaded in the project.  I'm finished with my tweaking.  However, when I export them one at a time, 4 of the exported songs have silence at the end.  Sonar continues to export until the end of the longest song even though it is muted.  Is there a work around to stop this behavior?  Naturally, this adds an additional step of clipping the ends of the other 4 songs via more editing.

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Re: Mastering individual tracks in one project 2014/02/11 10:48:50 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby jmasno5 2014/02/11 12:20:30
Yes, you can:
 
1: select all (CTRL+A)
2: select by time (edit menu) and set the first and last bar you need
3: export.
 
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Re: Mastering individual tracks in one project 2014/02/11 10:50:12 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby jmasno5 2014/02/11 12:20:43
You may also want to "apply trimming" to each clip prior to export.

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Re: Mastering individual tracks in one project 2014/02/11 11:02:13 (permalink)
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You may also want to "apply trimming" to each clip prior to export.


I do this ^

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Re: Mastering individual tracks in one project 2014/02/11 11:11:08 (permalink)
So select time first then export the individual track.  Repeat for each export.  Thanks.

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Re: Mastering individual tracks in one project 2014/02/11 11:12:09 (permalink)
I'll do this too.  Thanks.
 

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Re: Mastering individual tracks in one project 2014/02/11 21:46:26 (permalink)
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You may also want to "apply trimming" to each clip prior to export.


May I ask how you do this or be pointed to a reference please Craig.
 
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Re: Mastering individual tracks in one project 2014/02/11 22:20:46 (permalink)
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So select time first then export the individual track.  Repeat for each export.  Thanks.



I usually export beyond the end of the song, (because I've chopped off tails too many times...) then open it up in Sony SoundForge - I trim there, apply any fades, and export various formats from there...
 
But that's me....

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Re: Mastering individual tracks in one project 2014/02/11 22:34:09 (permalink)
I use one project just for mastering backing tracks for live play, for leveling etc. Hundreds of them. The workaround I use for your problem is I move each track to the same finish point, so that all tracks are essentially the same length. Then for bouncing out, just select the track I want out, and it bounces out from the beginning of the selection to the end. I have a marker set for the last 'crash' or note of the track, for alignment.
 
Works well, although I'm sure there is a better way.
 
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Re: Mastering individual tracks in one project 2014/02/12 00:52:57 (permalink)

For the OP.
You can see the progress bar with the x at the end as your mix renders. Click it.  A dialogue will appear "do you want to keep the file" click 'yes."
 
Use this for extra long takes automated or muted tracks or lanes still being exported and you can trim the mixdown.
It is the only task Sonar allows you to do when exporting.
It is a function,rather than a work around for that exact situation you have.
post edited by BJN - 2014/02/12 00:59:39
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Re: Mastering individual tracks in one project 2014/02/12 08:44:57 (permalink)
All great ideas. Thank you fellow Cakewalkians or Sonarians (not sure which one I like better).

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Re: Mastering individual tracks in one project 2014/02/12 14:53:50 (permalink)
If you just click on the clip, it will export that exact clip and there will not be any blank space at the end or beginning, unless that clip has blank space in it
 
 
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Re: Mastering individual tracks in one project 2014/02/12 15:38:40 (permalink)
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Anderton
You may also want to "apply trimming" to each clip prior to export.


May I ask how you do this or be pointed to a reference please Craig.
 
P.S 
Are you the Craig Anderton who wrote "Recording for musicians" way back in the early 80's?



In the Track View tabs, after selecting the clip choose Clips > Apply Trimming.
 
Yes, I'm that Craig Anderton...IIRC the first edition came out in 1976 or thereabouts.

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Re: Mastering individual tracks in one project 2014/02/13 04:15:22 (permalink)
Excellent! 
Long time fan here then. I still have the book though it got soaked with some cold pressed peanut oil in a moving house accident and I have to keep in in the garage as it.s gone a bit rancid smelling but the pages are beautifully preserved.
Great to have you here as a resource.
I also got much from your articles, either Mix magazine or could of been EQ mag.
One I still use today is the synth  EQ effect using narrow band EQ boost around 6k on guitar.
It was the 80's. LOL 
The mag dissapeared off the newsagent shelves in the early nineties.
I have seen plenty of reveiws and some CW sonar tutorials from Harmony Central over the years.
Thanks for being here and the answer!
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