Helpful Reply[Solved] Registry Cleaner BROKE ProChannel... Beware...

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2014/02/15 10:22:03 (permalink)

[Solved] Registry Cleaner BROKE ProChannel... Beware...

When I load new instruments and on some channels that are already set up, the following is happening:
 
1]  The bottom module does not load,
2]  When right-clicking to remove them, nothing happens after selecting "remove",
3] The button for the EQ pop-out is missing...
 
How do I fix this?
 

 
post edited by Puffin617 - 2014/02/15 12:49:28
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Re: ProChannel Bug 2014/02/15 10:50:13 (permalink)
Is this in a specific project or in general?
I had it in one project, turns out it had somehow inexplicably become "corrupted" and the "solution" was to move all my tracks and data to a new project.
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Re: ProChannel Bug 2014/02/15 11:23:25 (permalink)
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Is this in a specific project or in general?
I had it in one project, turns out it had somehow inexplicably become "corrupted" and the "solution" was to move all my tracks and data to a new project.



It worked perfectly this morning.  Only thing I can thing caused it was cleaning up my registry.  I tried opening older projects and all of them do this...  It's not the project...
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Re: ProChannel Bug 2014/02/15 11:30:36 (permalink)
IMHO registry cleaning is overrated and should be used only to fix specific issues, and only if you know enough about the registry to be able to fix things manually. Hopefully you backed up the registry before making any changes, but if not, you may need to re-install Sonar to return its registry entries to normal if the registry is indeed the issue.

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Re: ProChannel Bug 2014/02/15 11:42:17 (permalink)
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IMHO registry cleaning is overrated and should be used only to fix specific issues, and only if you know enough about the registry to be able to fix things manually. Hopefully you backed up the registry before making any changes, but if not, you may need to re-install Sonar to return its registry entries to normal if the registry is indeed the issue.




That is really the only thing I did between this morning when everything worked and this afternoon when I had the issues...  Should I run the main installation or just the latest patch?
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Re: ProChannel Bug 2014/02/15 11:51:57 (permalink)
You can try running the latest patch first to see if that solves the problem. If not, set a system restore point, and un-install/re-install Sonar. Hopefully everything will work, but I can't promise anything because the registry is a strange, dark, and mysterious place and who knows what happened to it...

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Re: ProChannel Bug 2014/02/15 12:26:27 (permalink)
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You can try running the latest patch first to see if that solves the problem. If not, set a system restore point, and un-install/re-install Sonar. Hopefully everything will work, but I can't promise anything because the registry is a strange, dark, and mysterious place and who knows what happened to it...




I installed the complete SONAR and latest patch just over the previous one and all is fixed again...
 
Will use this as a reminder to leave registry alone...
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Re: ProChannel Bug 2014/02/15 12:43:03 (permalink)
Glad you got it fixed. You should update the thread title to reflect that: 'Registry Cleaner Broke Prochannel'.

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Re: ProChannel Bug 2014/02/15 13:43:29 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Puffin617 2014/02/15 15:37:08
Here's a quote:
 
Mark Russinovich (Author of the "Bible", Windows Internals, co-founder of Winternals and Sysinternals, and since both companies were bought by Microsoft, now a senior Microsoft employee) was asked:
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Hi Mark, do you really think that Registry junk left by uninstalled programs could severely slow down the computer? I would like to 'hear' your opinion. His reply fairly captures my own view:
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No, even if the registry was massively bloated there would be little impact on the performance of anything other than exhaustive searches.

On Win2K Terminal Server systems, however, there is a limit on the total amount of Registry data that can be loaded and so large profile hives can limit the number of users that can be logged on simultaneously.

I haven't and never will implement a Registry cleaner since it's of little practical use on anything other than Win2K terminal servers and developing one that's both safe and effective requires a huge amount of application-specific knowledge. 

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Re: ProChannel Bug 2014/02/15 16:36:11 (permalink)
Funnily enough I have been to a few of Mark's conferences a while back.
 
When you ran the registry cleaner (was it cc cleaner? was it up to date?) did you do a backup?
 
If you find the need to use these tools a backup is extremely important so you can roll back. I agree they should be used with caution. Occasionally they can be useful but they should not be implemented as part of a regular maintenance routine.
 
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Re: ProChannel Bug 2014/02/15 21:25:23 (permalink)
I have seen the installers for codec packs ask if I want to remove what they think are invalid registry entries. Luckily, I read the info before clicking delete and noticed they were referencing the cakewalk dll's for the pro-channel modules and chose to leave them alone. 
 
Be advised! Glad you found a solution.

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Re: ProChannel Bug 2014/02/15 22:20:33 (permalink)
I use ccleaners reg cleaner only if I have installed/uninstalled many programs.
I always back it up as well.
but I reinstall wondows every 2 months to keep a clean fresh system.
I have a back up made of windows installed with all updates and sonar installed with plug ins.
this was done error free.
 
now I just reinstall this once every 2 months.
its also good for clutter control of useless docs saved over the past months.
my daw is also a split surfer, documents maker/exc.
 
all this talk of my daw doesn't go on the net, my daw is for music only is great but
in my experience in the last 5 years alone.
I have both, a daw machine, and a daw that's also used as a surfer(not notty videos either)
just surfing, email, cakewalk forums, no games though.
 
ive seen little difference enough to make me use my own dedicated pc for daw only.
well you could catch a virus, 5 years now. malware yes, adware yes, the FBI virus, no.
I back up.

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Re: ProChannel Bug 2014/02/16 00:14:46 (permalink)
Any legit site has the potential to have a virus. These forums (running third party code) could suffer from a SQL injection attack for instance (therefore applications security updates are common). Any web page could also link to something dodgy, any page. The fact is right now you probably have absolutely no idea if you have a virus or not.
 
You can install a virus scanner with little impact nowadays and you can exclude folders MS recommends plus get your DAW from any real time scanner.
 
>  the FBI virus, no
 
Not yet, also you may (or may not)  be aware that this thing can travel over network shares and USB cables where your backups are. As there are millions of viruses out there the chances of getting that over the others may be quite slim.
 
The choice is yours of course but I definitely wouldn't do it, in my view virus scanners should be made compulsory by law, I get enough zombies as it is sending me junk mail (mainly from Florida it seems where the old folk don't bother updating and are continuously browsing porn ).
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Re: ProChannel Bug 2014/02/16 00:30:25 (permalink)
Hm I wonder if the registry cleaner "cleaned" more than just the registry.
Modules failing to load would more likely  be caused by something removing prochannel modules than changes to the registry.
For prochannel modules the only thing in the registry I know of is the default GUID's that define which ones are loaded on a bus or track.
You could probably restore the registry state by forcing SONAR to re-personalize - I think launching the app while holding down CTRL does that.

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