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Re: New EQ from Ik Multimedia coming to customshop.
2014/02/15 21:00:37
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I've been wondering the same thing Clint, ever since I saw it hit my Facebook a few days ago.
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clintmartin
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Re: New EQ from Ik Multimedia coming to customshop.
2014/02/15 21:07:00
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The Maillard Reaction
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Re: New EQ from Ik Multimedia coming to customshop.
2014/02/15 21:14:36
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Back in the days before digital, a rotary switch on an analog EQ may have been be thought of as ideal for providing both precise settings and recall. Now, in the era of digital precision and total recall from memory, emulating rotary switches seems fairly dim witted. Having said that, I'll bet this thing is going to sell like birthday candles at a cake shop.
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Re: New EQ from Ik Multimedia coming to customshop.
2014/02/15 21:14:56
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☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2014/02/16 21:44:51
Maybe it's bundled with................... Never mind
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Re: New EQ from Ik Multimedia coming to customshop.
2014/02/15 21:18:28
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2014/02/15 21:17:44
SepticTank3...er...Free????
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clintmartin
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Re: New EQ from Ik Multimedia coming to customshop.
2014/02/15 22:02:45
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2014/02/15 22:06:44
I'm sure it will be good, most of the T-racks stuff is, but I don't need another EQ or reverb or compressor or...
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Re: New EQ from Ik Multimedia coming to customshop.
2014/02/15 22:18:25
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mike_mccue Back in the days before digital, a rotary switch on an analog EQ may have been be thought of as ideal for providing both precise settings and recall. Now, in the era of digital precision and total recall from memory, emulating rotary switches seems fairly dim witted. There are actually potential advantages from a DSP perspective, depending.
In order, then, to discover the limit of deepest tones, it is necessary not only to produce very violent agitations in the air but to give these the form of simple pendular vibrations. - Hermann von Helmholtz, predicting the role of the electric bassist in 1877.
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Re: New EQ from Ik Multimedia coming to customshop.
2014/02/16 04:03:12
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☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2014/02/16 21:45:26
Its coming soon, just like sample tank 3. By the time it gets out the door it will probably be ready for retirement.
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The Maillard Reaction
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Re: New EQ from Ik Multimedia coming to customshop.
2014/02/16 08:18:58
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mike_mccue Back in the days before digital, a rotary switch on an analog EQ may have been be thought of as ideal for providing both precise settings and recall. Now, in the era of digital precision and total recall from memory, emulating rotary switches seems fairly dim witted. There are actually potential advantages from a DSP perspective, depending.
:-) You know that a statement like that just makes me want to learn more about it. Please? :-)
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Re: New EQ from Ik Multimedia coming to customshop.
2014/02/16 08:30:46
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cowboydan Its coming soon, just like sample tank 3. By the time it gets out the door it will probably be ready for retirement.
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Re: New EQ from Ik Multimedia coming to customshop.
2014/02/16 13:54:27
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☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2014/02/16 21:45:40
mike_mccue
drewfx1
mike_mccue Back in the days before digital, a rotary switch on an analog EQ may have been be thought of as ideal for providing both precise settings and recall. Now, in the era of digital precision and total recall from memory, emulating rotary switches seems fairly dim witted. There are actually potential advantages from a DSP perspective, depending.
:-) You know that a statement like that just makes me want to learn more about it. Please? :-)
These things aren't always a problem, but... Filters work by multiplying the signal by a series of filter coefficients and adding the result back into the signal. Calculating these coefficients directly can be difficult to do on the fly so they are often calculated in advance. If you have a relatively limited number of possible settings, you can just calculate them in advance and store them in a lookup table. But if you have a more continually varying, say frequency, you either: 1. Need a huge lookup table with values for every possible combination of settings down to the limits of adjustment. 2. Need to calculate coefficients on the fly. 3. Fudge it by interpolating pre-calculated coefficients in one way or another. In most cases filters are implemented as IIR filters, because they are much more efficient in terms of processing than FIR filters. The first "I" in IIR is for "Infinite" (vs. "Finite") Impulse Response and the reason it's infinite (in theory) - and more efficient - is because there is a feedback loop in the filter. Under certain conditions this feedback loop can cause the filter to be unstable, similar to what happens with an analog delay overloading when you crank up the feedback. One area where they can potentially become unstable is when rapidly changing settings.
In order, then, to discover the limit of deepest tones, it is necessary not only to produce very violent agitations in the air but to give these the form of simple pendular vibrations. - Hermann von Helmholtz, predicting the role of the electric bassist in 1877.
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clintmartin
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Re: New EQ from Ik Multimedia coming to customshop.
2014/02/16 14:04:53
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☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2014/02/16 21:45:47
They also say changes are coming to the custom shop. Here's what I would like to see IK do. Change jam points to actual dollars. Reduce the credit by half if they want, but make it something you don't have to think about or do away with them all together. Second...change the credits system to 1 dollar equals 1 credit and make it to where you can buy what you need. Basically simplify everything. If they want they can offer more credits for buying in quantity, but a credit should be equal to a dollar. I know the sales catch people out sometimes, but I have learned to just never pay full price for anything, wait for the sales. This goes for Cakewalk as well.
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The Maillard Reaction
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Re: New EQ from Ik Multimedia coming to customshop.
2014/02/16 15:02:04
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Thanks Drew. That's a very interesting explanation. best regards, mike
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IK Obi
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Re: New EQ from Ik Multimedia coming to customshop.
2014/02/22 20:24:34
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clintmartin They also say changes are coming to the custom shop. Here's what I would like to see IK do. Change jam points to actual dollars. Reduce the credit by half if they want, but make it something you don't have to think about or do away with them all together. Second...change the credits system to 1 dollar equals 1 credit and make it to where you can buy what you need. Basically simplify everything. If they want they can offer more credits for buying in quantity, but a credit should be equal to a dollar. I know the sales catch people out sometimes, but I have learned to just never pay full price for anything, wait for the sales. This goes for Cakewalk as well.
Jam Credits will never equate to dollars, same with Gear Credits. Gear Credits are rated 1 to 1 Euro as IK is an Italian company. We definitely updated it to use Currency on individual purchases, but of course if you get Credit Packs or purchase them in an IK Group Buy/Promo it usually saves you some money.
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Re: New EQ from Ik Multimedia coming to customshop.
2014/02/22 21:01:56
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I'm sorry, but this doesn't seem to make sense. Why are 120 gear credits 99 us dollars while the dollar price for the gear is 150. Are you saying that gear credit are based on the euro only for the purpose of buying the gear with non euro cash, but are not based on the euro for the purpose of buying gear credits? (even though your cash price is based the euro value of the credits?) that's some sort of bizarre justification.
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IK Obi
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Re: New EQ from Ik Multimedia coming to customshop.
2014/02/22 21:29:07
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gmon72 I'm sorry, but this doesn't seem to make sense. Why are 120 gear credits 99 us dollars while the dollar price for the gear is 150. Are you saying that gear credit are based on the euro only for the purpose of buying the gear with non euro cash, but are not based on the euro for the purpose of buying gear credits? (even though your cash price is based the euro value of the credits?) that's some sort of bizarre justification.
Dollars aren't worth as much as the Euro is. It'll constantly fluctuate, but it'll generally be more dollars than it would be for a euro to buy an IK Gear Credit in the Custom Shop.
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Re: New EQ from Ik Multimedia coming to customshop.
2014/02/22 21:54:47
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Thanks but you didn't answer my question. Why are 120 credits 99 US dollars (however you base the value of credits, which in this case clearly doesn't seem to be the euro as you stated) while the cash price for the gear is 150? (This might be based on the euro). Regardless, the credit and us cash prices are inconsistent.
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IK Obi
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Re: New EQ from Ik Multimedia coming to customshop.
2014/02/22 22:26:13
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Using IK's credit system will always be the more inexpensive way to purchase things in the Custom Shop.
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gmon72
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Re: New EQ from Ik Multimedia coming to customshop.
2014/02/22 22:54:09
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Why bother accepting cash if there is a disparity like that? Is this what IK thought users wanted ? Meanwhile.... http://www.ikmultimedia.com/news/?item_id=364640% off US dollar (not linked to euro) for iOS gear. $5.99/ €5.49 each instead of $9.99/ €8.99 I get it now, IK truly doesn't care about customers like me, I give up. Good luck.
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Re: New EQ from Ik Multimedia coming to customshop.
2014/02/23 01:40:13
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-______- There is a separate iTunes store for each country. So, when you go to buy our apps, it shows your local countries currency and pricing. There is a lot more to business than just the United States, or even Europe for example, not that we need to explain how we do business around the world in this thread. Especially since that is an iOS special, funny how people here hate how IK makes iOS products (Even though we are one of the best at it and it allows us to do more things for our Custom Shop and our soon to be SampleTank update) yet everyone keeps bringing them up. This thread is on the new EQ. Not our iOS apps, not on our Android apps and not on our iRigs. The pricing is as it is and the sound is more than worth the price. Not to mention this is an INTRODUCTORY PRICE. The price for the EQ will be going up to the soon to be announced normal price. For any more details check the official Master EQ 432 page.
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Re: New EQ from Ik Multimedia coming to customshop.
2014/02/23 03:56:52
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There is a lot more to business than just the United States, or even Europe for example, not that we need to explain how we do business around the world in this thread. Anybody else find this type of statement arrogant and dismissive? The whole tone of his post is WRONG - no wonder people are losing / have lost patience with IK Nigel
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Re: New EQ from Ik Multimedia coming to customshop.
2014/02/23 07:15:24
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Ditto. If IK wants to continue to insult its customers' intelligence by refusing to acknowledge the obvious and being arrogant, there is nothing more to say. I'm sorry I have spent a ton on IK stuff dating back years before the fire sale, but at this point it's a sunk cost.
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Re: New EQ from Ik Multimedia coming to customshop.
2014/02/23 17:30:37
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It was explained pretty well by a couple of users that chimed in on the KVR thread, but not here so... The 120 pack of Gear Credits presents a 33% or 1/3 discount in both euro and USD pricing vs the full price you'd pay for the gear in either euro or USD if paying directly with either. This is a discount for purchasing credits in bulk.
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Re: New EQ from Ik Multimedia coming to customshop.
2014/02/23 19:17:36
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Then the cash option is illusory. Plain and simple. Whatever though. Good luck though. Truly.
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