SonarX"n" -- Spreading Load Evenly Across Physical Cores

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2014/02/26 15:10:54 (permalink)

SonarX"n" -- Spreading Load Evenly Across Physical Cores

Would like to build a high-core Win7 or Win8 system to support high counts of VSTi plug-ins.  Feedback to date indicates whether high plug-in counts can be achieved or not depends primarily on how EVENLY Sonar is capable of distributing load across cores (whether multiple physical cores in a single CPU, or multiple cores across more than 1 CPU).  Anyone with empirical feedback on Sonar's core-load evenness capabilities?  Thanks.
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    Re: SonarX"n" -- Spreading Load Evenly Across Physical Cores 2014/02/26 15:22:18 (permalink)
    I don't think it's always up to Sonar, e.g. Izotope Ozone (a well known plugin) is written only for a single core I think.
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    Re: SonarX"n" -- Spreading Load Evenly Across Physical Cores 2014/02/26 15:29:31 (permalink)
    If you currently have a multi-core CPU, you can download the X3 demo... and give it a whirl.
    You should find that X3 is pretty well optimized for multiple CPU cores.
    Noel/etc can correct me if I'm mistaken, but I believe the GUI runs on one core... so it's normal to see a single core that's running a bit higher than the rest.  
     
    FWIW, I use a six-core CPU in my main studio DAW.  
    X3 spreads the load across all twelve virtual cores... with a single core bearing slightly higher load.

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    Re: SonarX"n" -- Spreading Load Evenly Across Physical Cores 2014/02/26 15:32:29 (permalink)
    +1, people tend to get excited by this and not understanding the underlying reason. Core 0 tends to be the "workhorse" in ANY application (much of the OS is firmly planted there too).
     
    Additionally, the right combination of CPU-hungry VST(i)s can bring even the most "powerful" machine to its knees.

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    Re: SonarX"n" -- Spreading Load Evenly Across Physical Cores 2014/02/26 15:35:01 (permalink)
    There is an excellent article on the Cakewalk site discussing Sonar's utilization of the Intel I7 features.
    Google "Cakewalk DAW Labs Processor Spotlight: Intel Core i7 Processor"
    and it should take you right to it..
     
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    Re: SonarX"n" -- Spreading Load Evenly Across Physical Cores 2014/02/26 15:39:25 (permalink)
    I also recall Intel actually used Sonar to showcase multicore capabilities. Unless that was the same article?

    In any case, I didn't mean to imply Sonar doesn't distribute evenly. Just that some plugins might have their own ideas about multicoring.
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    Re: SonarX"n" -- Spreading Load Evenly Across Physical Cores 2014/02/26 15:45:33 (permalink)
    This is a nice post Noel made in that massive thread a while ago. The white paper link is nice to read (since it was written by Intel), and this quote is a nice one "For 12 years, SONAR* has been the first workstation to support all Microsoft’s* operating systems, and the first to pioneer support for many Intel technology developments: hyper-threading, multiprocessor architectures, multicore processing and 64-bit processing."
     
    Since it is 2 years old, I assume it could read "For 14 years..."

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    Re: SonarX"n" -- Spreading Load Evenly Across Physical Cores 2014/02/26 18:05:48 (permalink)
    Looks like they changed that article
    Google these instead...
    "Utilizing Intel® AVX with Cakewalk SONAR* X1"
    "Multi-core Processors for Muscians"
     
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    Re: SonarX"n" -- Spreading Load Evenly Across Physical Cores 2014/02/26 19:46:14 (permalink)
    Jim Roseberry
    If you currently have a multi-core CPU, you can download the X3 demo... and give it a whirl.
    You should find that X3 is pretty well optimized for multiple CPU cores.
    Noel/etc can correct me if I'm mistaken, but I believe the GUI runs on one core... so it's normal to see a single core that's running a bit higher than the rest.  
     
    FWIW, I use a six-core CPU in my main studio DAW.  
    X3 spreads the load across all twelve virtual cores... with a single core bearing slightly higher load.

    Thanks, Jim.  I hope to have the hardware soon...hence my questions at this point.  Sounds like you are observing relatively even load across all 12 threads (consisting of 6 physical cores and 6 logical (hyperthreaded) cores).  Do you have any insights if X3 is capable of spreading evenly over two CPUs, each having multiple cores?  Thanks.
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    Re: SonarX"n" -- Spreading Load Evenly Across Physical Cores 2014/02/26 20:35:52 (permalink)
    I have an i7 4770K processer in my new PC.  X3 shows 8 threads.  Thread one seems to be getting a bit more work than the others but I aint exactly complaining because this PC is a freakin' beast man!

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