GaryWalker
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Starting Sonar X2a after machine start/reboot is VERY slow
Running Sonar X2a (32-bit) on my laptop and recently have noticed that the first start of the application following a reboot is deathly slow - taking around a minute usually. However, if I close Sonar and restart it, it is back up and running in 5 seconds. This is the case until the machine is rebooted, as which point the first load takes ages again.
I don't have any settings in place to scan VSTs when starting Sonar, but the issue seems to be when Sonar is loading the sound card driver, and the issue occurs irrespective of what interface or driver model is being used.
This doesn't stop me from using Sonar, as once started everything is fine and projects load fairly swiftly - I just wondered if anyone could explain the application startup speed after a machine reboot.
Cheers, Gary. Current configuration: Core i3 Laptop / 8GB RAM; Sonar Platinum (replaced with REAPER); Roland Quad Capture interface; Alesis Micron; Roland XP30; Akai Mini MPK; Akai S2000
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Re: Starting Sonar X2a after machine start/reboot is VERY slow
2014/03/05 11:20:54
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Some background process kicking in, maybe a virus scanner.
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GaryWalker
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Re: Starting Sonar X2a after machine start/reboot is VERY slow
2014/03/05 11:35:03
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Disabled both WiFi and Anti-Virus. Still the same problem. I think it's the onboard sound driver screwing things up, so am going to re-install the driver.
Cheers, Gary. Current configuration: Core i3 Laptop / 8GB RAM; Sonar Platinum (replaced with REAPER); Roland Quad Capture interface; Alesis Micron; Roland XP30; Akai Mini MPK; Akai S2000
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GaryWalker
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Re: Starting Sonar X2a after machine start/reboot is VERY slow
2014/03/05 12:42:56
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Nope. That didn't fix it either. This is with the onboard sound (I'm currently at work), so I'll give it a go with my proper interface (Quad Capture) when I get home.
Cheers, Gary. Current configuration: Core i3 Laptop / 8GB RAM; Sonar Platinum (replaced with REAPER); Roland Quad Capture interface; Alesis Micron; Roland XP30; Akai Mini MPK; Akai S2000
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Re: Starting Sonar X2a after machine start/reboot is VERY slow
2014/03/05 13:26:12
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What do you expect from a 32-bit OS and a laptop?
Modern programs are getting larger by the day and needs lots of memory.
The second time you load, things are probably in swap memory, not disk.
- Jim Hurley - SONAR Platinum - x64 - Windows 10 Pro ASUS P8P67 PRO Rev 3.0; Core i7-2600K@4.4GHz; 16 GB G.SKILL Ripjaws X; GeForce GT 740; Saffire Pro14 MixControl 3.7; Axiom 61 64-Bit audio, SR: 48kHz, ASIO 256 samples latency, Rec/Play I/O Buffers 512k, Total Round Trip Latency 13 ms, Pow-r 3 dither
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Re: Starting Sonar X2a after machine start/reboot is VERY slow
2014/03/05 13:26:23
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Yeah - that's a pretty weird one. I would think it would be some local oddity, as there are no general reports out there with similar complaints.
Have you tried deleting aud.ini?
C:\Users\your user\AppData\Roaming\Cakewalk\SONAR X2 Producer
Sonar will recreate it on restart. (It is a hidden file, by the way)
Maybe something within it got goofed up.
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Re: Starting Sonar X2a after machine start/reboot is VERY slow
2014/03/05 13:30:36
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This happens to me also. It has nothing to with whether you're running 32-bit or 64-bit Windows, and everything to do with how your operating system is caching disk reads in memory.
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GaryWalker
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Re: Starting Sonar X2a after machine start/reboot is VERY slow
2014/03/05 15:30:03
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arachnaut
What do you expect from a 32-bit OS and a laptop?
Modern programs are getting larger by the day and needs lots of memory.
The second time you load, things are probably in swap memory, not disk.
My O/S is 64 bit. I'm using the 32 bit version of Sonar because Proteus VX is 32-bit and doesn't work with Bitbridge. As for my current setup - I recorded an EBM/Industrial album using it last year using Sonar, so to say that what I have isn't good enough is a bit disingenious IMO. My issue is not with the operability of Sonar (I have no problems there) - I was just hoping that other users may have seen this slow start issue and could offer advice other than "your rig isn't good enough", but hey ho. I'll come back when I upgrade my vastly inferior computer.
Cheers, Gary. Current configuration: Core i3 Laptop / 8GB RAM; Sonar Platinum (replaced with REAPER); Roland Quad Capture interface; Alesis Micron; Roland XP30; Akai Mini MPK; Akai S2000
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Re: Starting Sonar X2a after machine start/reboot is VERY slow
2014/03/05 16:05:22
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When you use Sonar in 32-bit mode you are using a virtualized 32-bit OS.
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Re: Starting Sonar X2a after machine start/reboot is VERY slow
2014/03/05 16:30:49
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This reminds me of the minimum requirements for running Windows 8.1 From: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/system-requirements Windows 8.1 If you want to run Windows 8.1 on your PC, here's what it takes: Processor: 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster with support for PAE, NX, and SSE2 (more info)RAM: 1 gigabyte (GB) (32-bit) or 2 GB (64-bit) Hard disk space: 16 GB (32-bit) or 20 GB (64-bit) Graphics card: Microsoft DirectX 9 graphics device with WDDM driver Sure you can do it, but...
- Jim Hurley - SONAR Platinum - x64 - Windows 10 Pro ASUS P8P67 PRO Rev 3.0; Core i7-2600K@4.4GHz; 16 GB G.SKILL Ripjaws X; GeForce GT 740; Saffire Pro14 MixControl 3.7; Axiom 61 64-Bit audio, SR: 48kHz, ASIO 256 samples latency, Rec/Play I/O Buffers 512k, Total Round Trip Latency 13 ms, Pow-r 3 dither
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