mikebeam
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Ducking the Bass! For Noobs
I've read a lot about "Ducking the Bass" and want to experiment with it a little. However, I get hung up on specific lingo. I'm pretty new to recording and Sonar... I have producer. I'm using Addictive Drums.
I know that I need to set up a "sidechain" but I'm not totally sure how to do that.
If someone could give me some instructions, that would be awesome! Also, I'm wondering if I can hook up the send from the bass drum of Addictive Drums, but not the other drums... I could just make a separate track exclusively for the bass, but I wasn't sure if that was the most efficient...
Any help or suggestions is appreciated.
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Re: Ducking the Bass! For Noobs
2014/03/11 09:40:46
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mikebeam
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Re: Ducking the Bass! For Noobs
2014/03/11 09:48:58
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That looks like exactly the kind of tutorial I was looking for.... Thanks! I'll try it and post how it works out.
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mettelus
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Re: Ducking the Bass! For Noobs
2014/03/11 11:16:30
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☄ Helpfulby Del 2014/03/14 10:46:01
I did two assignments for a recent online course which may be helpful to you. They are both text-based, one is on ducking, and the other is on mirror EQ (specific to fitting a kick drum and bass together).
post edited by mettelus - 2014/03/12 01:56:08
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mikebeam
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Re: Ducking the Bass! For Noobs
2014/03/11 11:56:20
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Thanks Mettelus! This looks awesome...
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Re: Ducking the Bass! For Noobs
2014/03/11 15:35:17
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I think sidechaining, in this case, sounds bad. If your using it for voiceovers, as it's intended, then that's fine. The use of EQ is the way to go. There is a video floating around here with the fabfilter pro Q that gives a nice example of how to set up the bass drum. You can do the same thing, inversely, to the bass guitar so the BD and bass guitar co-exist as they should.
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Re: Ducking the Bass! For Noobs
2014/03/11 15:52:25
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Yeah... This is totally ridiculous. I'm just messing around - trying to learn all the different possibilities for techniques. I made a techno-house-style song (which is waaaayyy outside what I normally do) and read that that was used a lot in this music... Wanted to give it a go - and it works beautifully. Now, on to something else cool.
But, yes, the Mirror EQ Mettelus posted about was what I usually do and (I think) what you are talking about. That will be my go-to technique for serious projects. Having the bass and drums live together and get along is much more my style.
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Re: Ducking the Bass! For Noobs
2014/03/11 19:56:29
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mettelus
I did two assignments for a recent online course which may be helpful to you. They are both text-based, on is on ducking, and the other is on mirror EQ (specific to fitting a kick drum and bass together).
Sweet sweet job man...enjoyed both reads and will enjoy (hopefully) integrating them into my upcoming mixes. That Fabfilter video -- actually all of them -- are pretty stellar. p.s. Baltimore, huh? I grew up in Rockville and went to Towson...back when it was still Towson STATE. =)
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mettelus
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Re: Ducking the Bass! For Noobs
2014/03/11 22:50:55
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Dan Worrall's video is a reference in my mirror EQ presentation (I absolutely love his video for the content he presented). It is a sales pitch for FabFilter Pro Q, but the methods are universal concepts. "Dan Worrall's video (this is a brilliant video demonstrating the topics covered in this presentation, but in more detail) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSNYBbPAvKE "
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Re: Ducking the Bass! For Noobs
2014/03/12 01:48:17
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Ducking bass seems fraught with improbability, as sound is vibrations in the air and physically ducking air may in fact prove impossible?!! If you're looking for your bass to sound like a duck? Why not cut out the middle-man and hire an actual session duck for the parts? Of course if what you're talking about is the little known stompbox manufacturer, Fudd-Hole Technologies, newest pedal? To be honest going by the attached image?... I think it's fake! 
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Re: Ducking the Bass! For Noobs
2014/03/12 03:14:57
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Ducking in Sonar is pretty easy:
1. Insert a bus, call it Ducker.
2. Add a Sonitus compressor to the Ducker FX. Start with the drum destroyer preset with an 1/8th note release time (234 ms == 128bpm).
3. Patch the channels (bass, strings, etc) you want to duck to the Ducker bus.
4. Create a send on the audio channel (kick) you want to use to drive the ducker and point it at the Sonitus side chain input. I usually bounce a couple measures of kick and paste it where I want things to duck.
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Re: Ducking the Bass! For Noobs
2014/03/12 21:33:21
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