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Re: Win 8 64bit & Sonar X3 Producer: Current verdict?
2014/03/17 15:45:29
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Wow, certainly a lot of ideas flying around. Thanks for all the input guys.
The issues I experience are quite unpredictable and by no means disastrous, esp since X3 it has improved a huge amount. Sonar will run beautifully for an entire day, but tomorrow it may stop/start or simply close on a project (normally a large one). It will eventually behave if I keep opening it.
Clicking on a Bus in Console View may or may not crash the project, but then again, that only happens once a day or so, especially since I stopped using Slate VCC on the Master Bus in conjunction with Concrete Limiter (yes, all this has been written up to both Slate and Cakewalk, and acknowledged by both parties as a problem).
I do push the system quite hard - I mix big and elaborate, so a typical rock song might end up with 80 tracks with FX on them, 12+ busses with FX on them and lots of Sidechain, Parallel Compression and other resource-hogging setups. Normally the system is dead happy to cope with it all, even at 512 buffer on mixdown.
All the drivers are the latest available, and I keep a clean system with registry cleaner (CC Cleaner and ASC) and a Smart Defrag. If you know anything about RME, you'll know their drivers are second to none, even on an old card like the HDSP9652.
Video card is onboard - the Nvidia was causing BSDs, so out it went .
Motherboard is Intel.
Drives are all 7200 Seagates.
PSU is a 650W.
RAM is either Kingston or Corsair - can't remember :O)
I guess my question is, and since I run a professional studio for my income, would 8.1 make my life a few percent less stressful every day? :O)
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Re: Win 8 64bit & Sonar X3 Producer: Current verdict?
2014/03/17 16:53:36
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Re: Win 8 64bit & Sonar X3 Producer: Current verdict?
2014/03/17 16:59:14
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I really have not regretted moving to 8.1. Windows 8 was a big shock for people, but 8.1 is very stable and you can work straight from the desktop. I do use the metro start screen for launching applications. It's quick and easy to access things, much more than the nested start menu. There are a lot of improvements in memory management over windows 7 which some of them you can read about here: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2011/10/how-windows-8s-memory-management-modifications-make-for-a-better-user-experience/ Also if you use multiple monitors, that alone makes Windows 8 better. No more running third party apps like "ultra-mon" to extend your task bar, it's all now built into Windows 8.
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Re: Win 8 64bit & Sonar X3 Producer: Current verdict?
2014/03/17 17:02:27
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A little interesting read. 
http://nypost.com/2014/01...dows-8-planning-for-9/
Interesting but I don't believe it's accurate. Redmond is on a 3 year version cycle and that isn't going to change. There will be an 8.2 in October, and in the short term there will be an 8.1 update 1, coming out in April I believe. You won't see Windows 9 until 2016 at the earliest.
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Re: Win 8 64bit & Sonar X3 Producer: Current verdict?
2014/03/17 17:17:02
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LJB
I guess my question is, and since I run a professional studio for my income, would 8.1 make my life a few percent less stressful every day? :O)
I don't think anyone can definitively answer that question for you. You're trying to collect as much info and as many valid opinions as you can, which is smart, but I think the only way for you to find out for certain is to give Win8 a try. Is it possible to install Win8 on a separate drive (or even a different partition) to give it a try with your computer/audio interface?
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Re: Win 8 64bit & Sonar X3 Producer: Current verdict?
2014/03/17 17:18:30
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I've been very happy with my Win8.1 setup and X3 (Studio)
It has been very stable - even with my firewire unit (Tascam FW1884).
To make some firewire units (the ones working better with the win7 legacy driver) work properly, it might be some tweaking. I had to do that.
After doing this, I couldn't be happier. DAW's been stable, and with a few clicks here and there you won't even notice the difference between Win7 and Win8.
On my laptop, I'm using W8.1 also, I tend to use the Metro GUI more there.
I also got a Nvidia GPU (both on the lappy and DAW) and have no issues.
The only thing I got a issue with, was a dlink wifi usb thingy, I threw it away and is only using ethernet now. (DAW)
I'd say, the thing you could do is to try. Even with the same HW your computer might be running smoothly and another might just not be working properly.
The way I did it, was to install a new SSD for the OS with Win8, so I had my Win7 OS disc if it did not work out.
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Re: Win 8 64bit & Sonar X3 Producer: Current verdict?
2014/03/17 19:52:06
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Re: Win 8 64bit & Sonar X3 Producer: Current verdict?
2014/03/17 19:59:20
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John
Those that seem to always bash a new OS have no clue what goes on under the hood. All they seem to see is the GUI and nothing else.
To the normal user there isn't anything else but the GUI. You've got to admit there's still a long way to go before an OS GUI becomes intuitively obvious. That so many people can use computers says a lot for the human brain, not for the software.
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Re: Win 8 64bit & Sonar X3 Producer: Current verdict?
2014/03/17 20:23:43
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@kristoffer - the Wi-Fi adapters can be present, but you would want to temporarily disable it or turn it off prior to launching Sonar, and you can enable it or turn it back on after you finish your Sonar session. Wi-Fi adapters are famous for massive latency spikes, but the turning off or disabling workaround fixes the problem.
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Re: Win 8 64bit & Sonar X3 Producer: Current verdict?
2014/03/17 20:30:04
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I will accept that Paul. But this forum is about a very advanced DAW and in its own way CW is pushing the state of the art DAW functionally. It seems to me the user here should have a little understanding about the OS that the DAW runs on. Why CW dropped Vista support, for example. I don't believe its enough for a user to come and complain that Sonar X3 wont run on XP. I think its the duty to find out why not just complain, for example.
Repeating a point of view that isn't taking into account the advances made to the OS and how that can improve the performance for our particular area of the wider world of computing does nothing for them and just creates confusion for those seeking answers.
Keep in mind too that in this tread I pointed out a few important advances with the release of Windows 8. One being DPC latency. This was a problem in Windows 7 and Vista. It appears to no longer be a factor with Windows 8. This is just a small thing but the apposition hasn't addressed this. Its not important to web browsing or office programs but it is important to DAW users. The thing that is so confounding to me is its all due to Metro. As if that has any impact to a DAW user. Plus we have pointed out multiple ways to deal with Metro. Again they would not address that but continue to find fault.
I find Windows 8 the most customizable OS I have so far used. I go back to DOS 1.
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Re: Win 8 64bit & Sonar X3 Producer: Current verdict?
2014/03/17 21:30:24
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My experience with Windows 8 64bit is that I have to tolerate it ….
the only reason that I use it is because I wanted to run SONAR X3 ...no other reason ….
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Re: Win 8 64bit & Sonar X3 Producer: Current verdict?
2014/03/18 06:26:54
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@kristoffer - the Wi-Fi adapters can be present, but you would want to temporarily disable it or turn it off prior to launching Sonar, and you can enable it or turn it back on after you finish your Sonar session. Wi-Fi adapters are famous for massive latency spikes, but the turning off or disabling workaround fixes the problem.
Bob Bone
Yep, but I found it more easy just to remove it (it was a USB adapter) and run a network cable directly to the DAW. This way the backup is faster also (Windows Home Server) So, hassle-free it is :) Now, I'm starting to look at a touch screen... To complement my FW1884 
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Re: Win 8 64bit & Sonar X3 Producer: Current verdict?
2014/03/18 06:48:16
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Regret...
I wish there were an easy way to go back to Win 7. That was the high water mark for desktop users. If I could do so easily, I would go back to Win 7 today.
The main reason I upgraded to win 8 was that there were posts on this board about Win 8 doing a better job balancing the cores of the CPU when Sonar is used. Maybe it does, I can't tell. I still have lots of imbalance in the core usage that forces me to freeze tracks in order to manage them as soon as the project becomes large. I'm not saying that is wrong or bad, just saying it adds to the workload and management of Sonar. I had hopes and dreams of Win 8 making a real difference in that department. If it does, its very marginal.
There were many improvements and enhancements going from Win 7 to 8 to 8.1. Still, Microsoft fundamentally tried to take a right hand turn with Win 8 and become more Apple like. Win 8 - you must sign in to microsoft each time. Metro apps take over the screen... multitasking becomes much more tedious. For those who are simply playing with their ipads that one-app-at-a-time makes good sense. Dumb things down for the average user. But for those people like myself who multitask all the time, and do real work with their computer that requires many things working together, metro holds zero interest.
One could argue that in Win 8 you can stay on familiar turf of the desktop. Maybe so. I know I stay there. But sometimes I get so frustrated at Microsoft when I watch someone, particularly older people, try to make use of hard won knowledge in windows and being totally baffled at the results.
Microsoft was once an innovative Goliath. Now its just a Goliath that still believes it can set the course and all of us must follow. Maybe true. But I think it did a major disservice to users in WIn 8's course change to force so much change at once. That would have been much more palatable if the end result was something that promoted increased productivity to the majority of users. But the end result is too often confusion.
End rant.
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Re: Win 8 64bit & Sonar X3 Producer: Current verdict?
2014/03/18 08:07:27
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LJB
Thanks for the input guys. Other than features as selling points, how stable is 8.1? (which is more my reason for looking at the change). Does one still get odd pauses, a crash or two a day etc etc as with Win 7? How smooth does the system run, and how well does it manage resources? Thanks, I just saw Markyzno's reply regarding this..
Its very stable.
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Re: Win 8 64bit & Sonar X3 Producer: Current verdict?
2014/03/18 09:18:57
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The only reason to go Win 8 is if you want touchscreen support. Otherwise, why risk it?
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Re: Win 8 64bit & Sonar X3 Producer: Current verdict?
2014/03/18 09:59:33
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John
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/10/better-on-the-inside-under-the-hood-of-windows-8/
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2007/03/pretty-vista/
The above links will help explain why Vista then Windows 7 and finally Windows 8 are so much better than the last version. Vista, that so many bash was the revolution. A clean break for 16 bit code. Windows 7 improved on Vista and now Windows 8 is the state of the art OS. If people don't like it its because they don't understand it. It was the same story with X1.
Those that seem to always bash a new OS have no clue what goes on under the hood. All they seem to see is the GUI and nothing else.
Most long term daw users are also strong window users. Most can peek into and tweak registries, ini files etc. I like a lot of the improvements - however - those same improvements in performance could have been packaged more traditionally. I think MS would do well to offer a version without apps. I don't want any unneeded resources pulling on my daw. I want it lean and mean. I look into the task manager of Win 8 and see a lot of apps loaded and ready to launch. They may not be pulling a lot on the cpu / memory, but I want them gone. I get the feeling that all this bloat is dismissed with the thought that us users will just have to buy more powerful computers. That's fine if doing that would allow me to tremendously extend the power of my daw. But a more powerful computer is incremental at a certain point if the operation system is expecting more power to use for its' existence.
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Re: Win 8 64bit & Sonar X3 Producer: Current verdict?
2014/03/18 10:12:37
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If your drivers support Win 8.1 and it is a new installation I'd recommend 8.1. I find it very stable. And while I'm not a big fan of the Start Page/Metro (I boot to the Desktop where I have them Pinned to the TaskBar) I have everyone of my major tools Pinned to the Start Page so that I can open them from there if I want. I don't understand the statement above about not being able to multitask in Win 8 or 8.1. I can float through all open applications using <Alt><Tab> just like I've been able to do since Win 3.1 even if they are opened from the Start Page.
With the recent deprecation of Win XP I would point out that if you build a new system based on Win 7 it will be obsolete sooner than 8.1. Of course this assumes your drivers support 8.1.
As I mentioned above I'm not a big fan of the Start Page, that said however, Microsoft's attempt at unifying the user experience across multiple platforms is admirable in my opinion. I have a Surface RT that I tote around with me and while it is pretty much useless for compute heavy tasks it a great little tool to have available...the fact that it can have the same look and feel as my DAW is a bonus in my opinion.
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Re: Win 8 64bit & Sonar X3 Producer: Current verdict?
2014/03/18 10:42:33
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John
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/10/better-on-the-inside-under-the-hood-of-windows-8/
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2007/03/pretty-vista/
The above links will help explain why Vista then Windows 7 and finally Windows 8 are so much better than the last version. Vista, that so many bash was the revolution. A clean break for 16 bit code. Windows 7 improved on Vista and now Windows 8 is the state of the art OS. If people don't like it its because they don't understand it. It was the same story with X1.
Those that seem to always bash a new OS have no clue what goes on under the hood. All they seem to see is the GUI and nothing else.
Most long term daw users are also strong window users. Most can peek into and tweak registries, ini files etc. I like a lot of the improvements - however - those same improvements in performance could have been packaged more traditionally. I think MS would do well to offer a version without apps. I don't want any unneeded resources pulling on my daw. I want it lean and mean. I look into the task manager of Win 8 and see a lot of apps loaded and ready to launch. They may not be pulling a lot on the cpu / memory, but I want them gone. I get the feeling that all this bloat is dismissed with the thought that us users will just have to buy more powerful computers. That's fine if doing that would allow me to tremendously extend the power of my daw. But a more powerful computer is incremental at a certain point if the operation system is expecting more power to use for its' existence.
Apparently not. The misinformation that is still being posted seems to counter that notion. So many people here have made it clear that Windows 8 can be modified to eliminate the start screen yet we see all sorts of bashing of Windows 8 because of the start screen. If these people really knew about Windows 8 they wouldn't still be echoing this. Then the comment that "The only reason to go Win 8 is if you want touchscreen support. Otherwise, why risk it?" seems to indicate that either people don't do any research or have read only the information from Windows bashers. Notice that those here that are running 8.1 say it is working well so why add the " why risk it"? I don't believe anyone has ever said Windows 8 is an unstable OS. That small comment also dismisses all the improvements that Windows 8/8.1 offers for the DAW user.
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Re: Win 8 64bit & Sonar X3 Producer: Current verdict?
2014/03/18 10:45:43
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I did not have Windows crashes or instability with either 7 or 8.
You DO want to do your homework and make sure drivers exist and are stable.
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Re: Win 8 64bit & Sonar X3 Producer: Current verdict?
2014/03/18 12:55:08
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I did not have Windows crashes or instability with either 7 or 8.
You DO want to do your homework and make sure drivers exist and are stable.
For all that's been written here, I think this statement is the most important and relevant issue regarding a move to Windows 8 - as long as you have good driver support for your hardware, Windows 8 is a good move. It's a newer OS and the most advanced version of Windows for home users. The issues of the GUI/Metro/charms can all be dealt with, but if you don't have solid driver support you should wait to upgrade until that support is available. flameoutThere were many improvements and enhancements going from Win 7 to 8 to 8.1. Still, Microsoft fundamentally tried to take a right hand turn with Win 8 and become more Apple like. Win 8 - you must sign in to microsoft each time. Metro apps take over the screen... multitasking becomes much more tedious. For those who are simply playing with their ipads that one-app-at-a-time makes good sense. Dumb things down for the average user. But for those people like myself who multitask all the time, and do real work with their computer that requires many things working together, metro holds zero interest. You've articulated this well and I totally agree. I think that Microsoft, in trying to get one-up on Apple, got ahead of itself in trying to force all Windows users into the Metro paradigm and only ended up portraying itself as being amazingly out of touch with their established user base. And BTW, you can log onto Windows 8 without setting up a Microsoft account - it's an almost hidden option which I'll bet most users miss.
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Re: Win 8 64bit & Sonar X3 Producer: Current verdict?
2014/03/18 14:05:16
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flameout
And BTW, you can log onto Windows 8 without setting up a Microsoft account - it's an almost hidden option which I'll bet most users miss.
That's how I log in or should I say not log in.
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Re: Win 8 64bit & Sonar X3 Producer: Current verdict?
2014/03/18 15:39:20
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Hmmm.... although I bought the Win8 upgrade during the initial $49 sale, I still haven't upgraded.  But when I do - is there a secret decoder ring password for this? My DAW is not by default connected to the internet so an auto sign-in aint happening.
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Re: Win 8 64bit & Sonar X3 Producer: Current verdict?
2014/03/18 16:01:49
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There's always a small "risk" if you like upgrading any OS, but that's what backups are for. I didn't see this as a comment about stability myself.
Regardless I think "Why risk it" should be rephrased to "Why bother" (going to Windows 8.1) specifically in the content of if you have Windows 7 like the OP.
Yes I don't think it's worth the money (specifically upgrading from Win 7) unless you have a specific requirement or need for it or just can't help yourself wanting to be on the latest OS because it turns you on for some reason. It's far cheaper and better to upgrade your OS when you buy new hardware.
Both are great OS's and I'm happy using both, they are stable, I don't find one better over the other. I don't even see any performance or stability improvement although Win8 I'm sure is slightly better over Win7. Just ever so slightly.
BTW all the stability issues I see mentioned in this thread in regards to any version of Windows appear to be 100% driver related.
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Re: Win 8 64bit & Sonar X3 Producer: Current verdict?
2014/03/18 16:17:42
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There's always a small "risk" if you like upgrading any OS, but that's what backups are for. I didn't see this as a comment about stability myself.
Regardless I think "Why risk it" should be rephrased to "Why bother" (going to Windows 8.1) specifically in the content of if you have Windows 7 like the OP.
Yes I don't think it's worth the money (specifically upgrading from Win 7) unless you have a specific requirement or need for it or just can't help yourself wanting to be on the latest OS because it turns you on for some reason. It's far cheaper and better to upgrade your OS when you buy new hardware.
Both are great OS's and I'm happy using both, they are stable, I don't find one better over the other. I don't even see any performance or stability improvement although Win8 I'm sure is slightly better over Win7. Just ever so slightly.
BTW all the stability issues I see mentioned in this thread in regards to any version of Windows appear to be 100% driver related.
I have no problem with someone staying with Windows 7. Remember Alex I did not upgrade to it and stayed with Vista. When CW announced that Vista would no longer be supported I quickly move on to Windows 8 skipping Windows 7. What I do have a problem with is the admonition not to upgrade because of incorrect reasons, false assertions and general negative comments when the truth is very different.
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Re: Win 8 64bit & Sonar X3 Producer: Current verdict?
2014/03/18 16:54:39
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What I do have a problem with is the admonition not to upgrade because of incorrect reasons, false assertions and general negative comments when the truth is very different.
Absolutely, I have seen this in other comments expressed in this thread which clearly are baseless. Driver stability issue or not bothering to spend a day getting to know a new OS inside out (which may require a little education) are the actual problems.
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Re: Win 8 64bit & Sonar X3 Producer: Current verdict?
2014/03/18 17:21:49
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Musicroom maby read this : http://forums.m-audio.com...acy-firewire-driver%29
I appreciate your willingness to help ST! I loaded the legacy drivers last evening following the instructions in the link you provided. That part of the process worked great. However, I'm still having the same problems. Going to load the latest Sonar X3E tonight and see where that leads. Otherwise, I think I may still need to reformat the c-drive and reload windows 8.1 to make sure I'm rid of all the left over vista os. Windows 7 is not out of the question either with a solid track record for firewire interfaces.
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Re: Win 8 64bit & Sonar X3 Producer: Current verdict?
2014/03/18 18:22:20
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Well, I jumped on Win8 very soon after its release and I have been using it for almost every day since. But to tell you the truth, getting Windows 8 made me buy a Mac. Not because there's anything wrong with Windows 8, it's very stable, all my hardware works without a hitch, I haven't run into any incompatible software, it's the perfect system - performance wise. But to me, it just interacting with it, I seriously can't stand it! It has some ways that to me seems not only illogical, but quite ridiculous as well. And the added features like integrated cloud service etc, doesn't work as well as I want it to. I get loads of errors when saving files to sync with OneDrive. The OS over all just feels like a stupid and fat donkey that I have to drag around. But then again, no OS is for everyone. The 8.1 update made Windows 8 a whole lot easier to live with which is why I haven't gotten rid of it already but during my next system clean up, there's a HUGE chance that Windows 7 will find its way back. Unless I sell everything and try living with OSX for a while. Having said that, I have Windows 7 on my Macbook running Sonar, and I am very happy with that. But Windows 8 - I just don't like it. But if you can get Windows 8 for a good price, it is well worth checking it out. Just keep a system image of your current install at hand  Good luck!
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