Kudos to the Bakers AND the Cakewalk Community

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Kudos to the Bakers AND the Cakewalk Community

There are plenty of "thank you" posts here regarding X3e, and it's probably bad protocol to start another one...well actually, I'm sure it is. But I'm super-impressed with the dedication that led to the five rapid-fire updates, and the results.
 
However, I also think it's important to give props to the community. It's like playing live: when the audience is clapping along and rocking out, you're going to play better. Although when X3 was introduced I did notice some malcontents, it sure seemed they were outnumbered by people who were genuinely trying to track down issues, make them reproducible, and file bug reports. Granted that kind of user base dedication is also about self-interest, because people had found particular bugs and really wanted them fixed. But as has been pointed out many times in these forums, the process of maintaining software is incredibly daunting for a small (but surely about to get bigger!) company. Having knowledgeable people providing valuable feedback...well, you can see the results with X3e. The effectiveness of this kind of partnership between a software company and its user base is self-evident.
 
It doesn't feel like a "company" and its "customers" as much as it feels like a bunch of people joined by a common desire to create a really outstanding piece of software that will help all of us realize our musical dreams. I like that a lot.

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    Re: Kudos to the Bakers AND the Cakewalk Community 2014/03/19 00:54:49 (permalink)
    Anderton
     
    It doesn't feel like a "company" and its "customers" as much as it feels like a bunch of people joined by a common desire to create a really outstanding piece of software that will help all of us realize our musical dreams. I like that a lot.




    Well said, Craig!
     
    I think you're right. I hope it continues to be this way. May SONAR continue to be an efficient a better tool and these forums continue to be a productive atmosphere for Cakewalk and this community.
     
    Thank you Cakewalk and the Cakewalk community for your work.


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    Re: Kudos to the Bakers AND the Cakewalk Community 2014/03/19 01:01:58 (permalink)
    I think overall X3 has been one of CW's greatest releases (Sonar3 & 8.5 were huge) but the newest update is impressive.  I very well stay here awhile.
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    Re: Kudos to the Bakers AND the Cakewalk Community 2014/03/19 01:06:52 (permalink)
    Craig,
    Ol' +1 on your comments.
    Not a heavy user yet, but an "old" coder.  Updates, changes can be extremely difficult.
     
    Would like to add my own kudo's to the Cakewalk family.
    Also an overall turnaround in the support and comments on the forum's.
     

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    Re: Kudos to the Bakers AND the Cakewalk Community 2014/03/19 01:14:32 (permalink)
    Elegantly put, Craig.

    On behalf of the SONAR Dev team, I'd like to echo that sentiment with a thank you to all of you that contribute to the product, be it by feeding back to us regarding what you want & need, or by sharing your appreciation for the worlds greatest DAW with your friends.

    The positivity here is inspiring.

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    Re: Kudos to the Bakers AND the Cakewalk Community 2014/03/19 01:15:23 (permalink)
    Well said Craig. We still have a few people not happy about one little thing or another, but as you point out, as a whole the majority of users on this forum are very happy with the results of the efforts by both the community and the bakers.

    Rock on!!

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    Re: Kudos to the Bakers AND the Cakewalk Community 2014/03/19 01:20:18 (permalink)
    Craig . . . what a great and positive thread.
    The efforts to really tackle the bugs for everyone for X3 edition has been outstanding, and I hope the company and customer spirit of partnership continues at this level for a good long while.
     
    This forum as a knowledgebase for users has proved one of Cakewalk's best assets.

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    Re: Kudos to the Bakers AND the Cakewalk Community 2014/03/19 01:58:18 (permalink)
    Let's just say the rest of the DAW world can learn something from Cakewalk... or maybe we should keep it a secret! :O) Well done all.

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    Re: Kudos to the Bakers AND the Cakewalk Community 2014/03/19 02:06:23 (permalink)
    Anderton
    There are plenty of "thank you" posts here regarding X3e, and it's probably bad protocol to start another one...well actually, I'm sure it is. But I'm super-impressed with the dedication that led to the five rapid-fire updates, and the results.
     
    However, I also think it's important to give props to the community. It's like playing live: when the audience is clapping along and rocking out, you're going to play better. Although when X3 was introduced I did notice some malcontents, it sure seemed they were outnumbered by people who were genuinely trying to track down issues, make them reproducible, and file bug reports. Granted that kind of user base dedication is also about self-interest, because people had found particular bugs and really wanted them fixed. But as has been pointed out many times in these forums, the process of maintaining software is incredibly daunting for a small (but surely about to get bigger!) company. Having knowledgeable people providing valuable feedback...well, you can see the results with X3e. The effectiveness of this kind of partnership between a software company and its user base is self-evident.
     
    It doesn't feel like a "company" and its "customers" as much as it feels like a bunch of people joined by a common desire to create a really outstanding piece of software that will help all of us realize our musical dreams. I like that a lot.


    I have always felt invested in Cakewalk. Not in a business sense but as one that was welcomed by the people behind the company. They have shown interest in this forum with timely posts and have often played along with us. They get the jokes. 
     
    I know that they work hard. I also know that they are human beings and smart when hit with a virtual fist from a forum member. Everyone wants to take pride in their work and the people at CW are no different. 
     
    You are right about most of the active membership being active in trying to eliminate bugs. Some go to a lot of trouble to do so. And they report their findings with respect and courtesy. They feel as I do that we are in this together. If we help the process along we all benefit. We have a great forum and it is hosted by a great company. 
     
    Now where is the F patch?
     
     

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    Re: Kudos to the Bakers AND the Cakewalk Community 2014/03/19 02:27:04 (permalink)
    Thanks wholeheartedly to the Bakers. Each release and patch release continues to put more joy into the creative process.

    Thanks a lot to his comments in this thread.

    I share the sentiments of Craig and the feeling all of us are into this in the pursuit of making music.

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    Re: Kudos to the Bakers AND the Cakewalk Community 2014/03/19 02:49:13 (permalink)
    Beautifully said, Craig...

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    Re: Kudos to the Bakers AND the Cakewalk Community 2014/03/19 02:54:01 (permalink)
    Jury is still out on X3E (give it two weeks) however so far so good, looks like it could be at least as successful as X3D which was also a good patch, and maybe surpass that. Thanks Bakers.

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    Re: Kudos to the Bakers AND the Cakewalk Community 2014/03/19 02:57:56 (permalink)
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    There are plenty of "thank you" posts here regarding X3e, and it's probably bad protocol to start another one...well actually, I'm sure it is. But I'm super-impressed with the dedication that led to the five rapid-fire updates, and the results.
     
    However, I also think it's important to give props to the community. It's like playing live: when the audience is clapping along and rocking out, you're going to play better. Although when X3 was introduced I did notice some malcontents, it sure seemed they were outnumbered by people who were genuinely trying to track down issues, make them reproducible, and file bug reports. Granted that kind of user base dedication is also about self-interest, because people had found particular bugs and really wanted them fixed. But as has been pointed out many times in these forums, the process of maintaining software is incredibly daunting for a small (but surely about to get bigger!) company. Having knowledgeable people providing valuable feedback...well, you can see the results with X3e. The effectiveness of this kind of partnership between a software company and its user base is self-evident.
     
    It doesn't feel like a "company" and its "customers" as much as it feels like a bunch of people joined by a common desire to create a really outstanding piece of software that will help all of us realize our musical dreams. I like that a lot.




    I tried to +1 this earlier, before I left work but for some reason I couldn't post. Anyhoos +1'd now. 
     
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    Re: Kudos to the Bakers AND the Cakewalk Community 2014/03/19 04:35:15 (permalink)
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    There are plenty of "thank you" posts here regarding X3e, and it's probably bad protocol to start another one...well actually, I'm sure it is. But I'm super-impressed with the dedication that led to the five rapid-fire updates, and the results.
     
    Totally agree CW is better than ever. A real credit to em!
     
    Can't wait to try out X3e!
     
     
     

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    Re: Kudos to the Bakers AND the Cakewalk Community 2014/03/19 07:19:48 (permalink)
    Extremely Gratefull to all.
     
    To be honest. I have been with Sonar since X1 so I'm not an old timer in that sense. In saying that, I have been on a rollercoaster ride through Sonarland . X1 was good and there were upgrades and quick fixes and all was well. In X2 there were major problems with the software and the company. The company was going through a change in Owner/sponsership issues and I think because of this X2 got lost in the turmoil. We also lost bakers that in my opinion were very good at what they did, and I was very sad to see them go. I know change is sometimes healthy, but in the case of X2 it wasn't.
    Then came Gibson. I still cannot believe the 180 degree turn cakewalk made when that happened. It almost feels like the nazi camps being freed and everybody celebrating. All at once the bakers wer on the forum helping everyone that had an issue with X3. And not to forget CakealexS for his registration and organization in the bug world. I personally hope (prey) that we all keep going in this direction for a long time.
    Having said that there will always be bugs in software due to the multitude of companys making the software and the different methods of coding the software. There will always be clashes in the different software as well as clashes between forum and Cakewalk about issues. 
    Cakewalk has done an exceptional job in creating a DAW that now in my opinion stands far above most other DAW s. Keep up the good work.
    I think that we can cope with the small bugs that will always be there and the workarounds that are created to make everyone happy. 
    And I am also greatfull that Cakewalk and the forum are now one big happy family and I hope it stays That way.
     
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    Re: Kudos to the Bakers AND the Cakewalk Community 2014/03/19 07:36:02 (permalink)
    Seconded.
    (Small personal sour note: I'd still like a CWBRN to be updated with 'Ignored, trivial' or something rather than be in 'under investigation' for 3 months and effectively ignored.)

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    Re: Kudos to the Bakers AND the Cakewalk Community 2014/03/19 07:46:11 (permalink)
    So far X3e has been great! I am very happy that CW listened to its users and focused on fixing a long list of bugs before rolling out new features. It feels much more solid already after using it for just a few hours.

    Kudos both to CW and those users who make the effort to carefully chase down and document bugs to help improve future releases.

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    Re: Kudos to the Bakers AND the Cakewalk Community 2014/03/19 07:53:28 (permalink)
    It was a point of pride to get a stack of bug report emails saying they were resolved with the release. It makes me feel like a part of the team. I can only imagine how proud I would be to be an official member of the company!

    Great work to all! From senior staff to new hires.

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    Re: Kudos to the Bakers AND the Cakewalk Community 2014/03/19 07:56:24 (permalink)
    Skyline_UK
    (Small personal sour note: I'd still like a CWBRN to be updated with 'Ignored, trivial' or something rather than be in 'under investigation' for 3 months and effectively ignored.)



    Skyline there are lots of bugs that will still need to be resolved not just your issue, but the good news is there are less of them :). I'm in the process of compiling another list right now. I'm sorry yours was not fixed this time, a lot of people have been waiting a lot longer than that for their issues to be resolved. Cakewalk seems to be making great progress since X3 has been released however so hats off to them...

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    Re: Kudos to the Bakers AND the Cakewalk Community 2014/03/19 10:14:00 (permalink)
    Well said Craig!

    Having used Cakewalk since the Forté days, (man, I feel old...) I've seen the good and the ...not so good.
    I've been full-in, and I've shopped other DAWs through the years.

    Honestly, the best thing to happen to Cakewalk, besides X3, is YOU!

    I've learned more about Cakewalk/ProAudio/Sonar through the years by reading your articles.

    I am SOOOOooooooooo glad that a power user like you has joined the Cakewalk team.
    Only good can come of that, and it has me locked in as a Sonar user.

    Now, if we can only get the higher ups at Gibson to get better name recognition for Sonar out in the industry...
    (That really should not be that hard, considering all of the feature "firsts" Cakewalk brought out before the other,
    more "industry standard" DAWs out there.)

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    Re: Kudos to the Bakers AND the Cakewalk Community 2014/03/20 01:09:36 (permalink)
    drummaman
    Well said Craig!

    Having used Cakewalk since the Forté days, (man, I feel old...) I've seen the good and the ...not so good.
    I've been full-in, and I've shopped other DAWs through the years.

    Honestly, the best thing to happen to Cakewalk, besides X3, is YOU!

    I've learned more about Cakewalk/ProAudio/Sonar through the years by reading your articles.

    I am SOOOOooooooooo glad that a power user like you has joined the Cakewalk team.
    Only good can come of that, and it has me locked in as a Sonar user.

     
    It's great to be able to take a more active role. I'm heading up to Boston next week to do a webinar on Sonar for Berklee (details forthcoming, it will be available to the public) as well as discuss next steps for Sonar and Cakewalk.
     
    However Cakewalk is very much in the driver's seat, I'm just a loud-mouthed backseat driver. I do hope some of my suggestions will merit inclusion in future versions of Sonar. I have this idea for a ProChannel module........

    Now, if we can only get the higher ups at Gibson to get better name recognition for Sonar out in the industry...
    (That really should not be that hard, considering all of the feature "firsts" Cakewalk brought out before the other,
    more "industry standard" DAWs out there.)



    We're trying! FWIW the people at Gibson enjoy having Cakewalk as part of the family. Everyone here senses that Cakewalk is not only turning around, but pushing ahead.

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    Re: Kudos to the Bakers AND the Cakewalk Community 2014/03/20 02:48:04 (permalink)
    Anderton

     
    It's great to be able to take a more active role. I'm heading up to Boston next week to do a webinar on Sonar for for Sonar
    However Cakewalk is very much in the driver's seat, I'm just a loud-mouthed backseat driver. I do hope some of my suggestions will merit inclusion in future versions of Sonar. I have this idea for a ProChannel module........





    Could you please shout a little about the consolle? I would love to have more visible sends!

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