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March 28, 14 9:16 AM (permalink)

Bounce to clips keep as multiple clips (Feature request).

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If I select a number of RegionFX clips on a single track and then bounce to clips it all merges into a single clip. Is this really good behaviour?

The workaround is to bounce each clip individually, then I get to keep the multiple clips. Or am I missing something?
 
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    Re: Bounce to clips merge into one clip March 28, 14 9:43 AM (permalink)
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    Hi
     
    If I select a number of RegionFX clips on a single track and then bounce to clips it all merges into a single clip. Is this really good behaviour?

    The workaround is to bounce each clip individually, then I get to keep the multiple clips. Or am I missing something?
     
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    I think so, IMHO.
     
    It's handy when you've done a lot of editing and have multiple clips to be able to combine them into one.  It's also handy to tidy up multiple MIDI clips into one.
     
    If I want to keep the individual clips, I bounce them individually.
     
    I have never really understood why the menu item says "Bounce to Clips(s)".
     
    Cheers
     
     

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    Re: Bounce to clips merge into one clip March 28, 14 10:55 AM (permalink)
    Thanks. Logged a feature request and I've also requested Cake to change this to "Bounce to Clip" (CWBRN-25128)

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    Re: Bounce to clips merge into one clip March 28, 14 12:33 AM (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby CakeAlexS March 28, 14 6:20 PM
    It's "Bounce to Clip(s)" because bouncing groups of clips in multiple selected tracks will produce a combined clip in each track.
     
    But I agree it would be nice to have an option to maintain clip indepedence and preserve lane assignments when bouncing multiple clips in the same track to apply clip FX, fades or other non-destructive edits (other than slip-editing where you can use Apply Trimming).

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    Re: Bounce to clips merge into one clip March 28, 14 1:01 PM (permalink)
    If I select a number of RegionFX clips on a single track and then bounce to clips it all merges into a single clip. Is this really good behaviour?

    Thats normal behavior. That is what its suppose to do. you are selecting "bounce to clips" and that is what 'bounce to clips' does. So it is good behavior and intended behavior Alex
     
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    Re: Bounce to clips merge into one clip March 28, 14 1:06 PM (permalink)
    Would be good to be able to choose, but one of my most common uses of bounce to clip is to combine two separate MIDI clips into one, so I'm glad that's the default behavior.

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    Re: Bounce to clips merge into one clip March 28, 14 2:50 PM (permalink)
    The issue I logged with Cakewalk (CWBRN-25128) is summarised as follows:
     
    Have two items...

    1) Bounce to CLIP.
    2) Bounce to CLIPS.

    So....

    1) A fix is required (change the resx file or whatever) to change the name from the current "Bounce to CLIPS" to "Bounce to CLIP". Currently what is described is incorrect.

    2) Bounce to CLIPS (New feature/enhancement) bounces to whatever clips are selected and they stay as clips.
     
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    Re: Bounce to clips merge into one clip March 28, 14 3:53 PM (permalink)
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    Would be good to be able to choose, but one of my most common uses of bounce to clip is to combine two separate MIDI clips into one, so I'm glad that's the default behavior.



    My most frequent use also. Glad it works this way too!
     
    @Alex:
     
    How about this:
     
    Bounce>
    To Clip: and all clips selected bounce to one clip (as it does now)
    To Clips: and all clips selected bounce to individual clips.
     
    Or have another options window open and offer the above options.

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    Re: Bounce to clips merge into one clip March 28, 14 3:56 PM (permalink)
    Well exactly, I wrote something similar in #7. Cheers...

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    Re: Bounce to clips merge into one clip March 28, 14 5:54 PM (permalink)
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    1) A fix is required (change the resx file or whatever) to change the name from the current "Bounce to CLIPS" to "Bounce to CLIP". Currently what is described is incorrect.

     



    If you read Brundlefly's comment in post four, you will see that it is entirely correct.


    Thanks, Brundlefly, now I understand.

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    Re: Bounce to clips merge into one clip March 28, 14 6:05 PM (permalink)
    Yes, you are indeed missing something.
     
    CJ is correct.

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    Re: Bounce to clips merge into one clip March 28, 14 6:20 PM (permalink)
    Yup and of course CWBRN-25128 got withdrawn (seems reasonable).
     
    Cakewalk problem reporter:
    "It's called 'Bounce to Clips' because you can bounce clips across multiple tracks."
     
    I logged a feature request instead.
     
     
    See CWBRN-25128.

    We still need some option sort of option with bounce to clips.
    Bounce to CLIPS should optionally bounce to whatever clips are selected and they stay as clips rather than turn into a single clip within the track. The default behaviour would be better as keeping as clips IMHO. Current behaviour is destructive (although you can undo).
     
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    Re: Bounce to clips merge into one clip March 28, 14 6:30 PM (permalink)
    So "Apply FX" does not exist in X-series?

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    Re: Bounce to clips merge into one clip March 28, 14 7:09 PM (permalink)
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    Hi
     
    If I select a number of RegionFX clips on a single track and then bounce to clips it all merges into a single clip. Is this really good behaviour?

    The workaround is to bounce each clip individually, then I get to keep the multiple clips. Or am I missing something?
     
    Thanks...




    I think so, IMHO.
     
    It's handy when you've done a lot of editing and have multiple clips to be able to combine them into one.  It's also handy to tidy up multiple MIDI clips into one.
     
    If I want to keep the individual clips, I bounce them individually.
     
    I have never really understood why the menu item says "Bounce to Clips(s)".
     
    Cheers
     
     


    Because you have the ability to select multiple clips in multiple tracks and selecting bounce to clip(s) creates one contiguous clip per track - hence the [possible] plural

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    Re: Bounce to clips merge into one clip March 28, 14 7:15 PM (permalink)
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    Re: Bounce to clips merge into one clip March 28, 14 7:28 PM (permalink)
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    So "Apply FX" does not exist in X-series?



    Yes, but it only applies FX in the track bin. It won't apply Clip FX, fades, stretching, automation etc.
     
    CORRECTION: Actually it appears it will apply clip-level edits, but it's not available (grayed out) unless there's also at least one FX in the track bin.

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    Re: Bounce to clips merge into one clip March 28, 14 9:27 PM (permalink)
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    Hi
     
    If I select a number of RegionFX clips on a single track and then bounce to clips it all merges into a single clip. Is this really good behaviour?

    The workaround is to bounce each clip individually, then I get to keep the multiple clips. Or am I missing something?
     
    Thanks...




    I think so, IMHO.
     
    It's handy when you've done a lot of editing and have multiple clips to be able to combine them into one.  It's also handy to tidy up multiple MIDI clips into one.
     
    If I want to keep the individual clips, I bounce them individually.
     
    I have never really understood why the menu item says "Bounce to Clips(s)".
     
    Cheers
     
     


    Because you have the ability to select multiple clips in multiple tracks and selecting bounce to clip(s) creates one contiguous clip per track - hence the [possible] plural



    Thanks, Colin.

    That had perplexed me before, and again when I looked at this thread.

    Brundlefly pointed out the same. I guess it's not something I do regularly, so at least now I knowwhy.

    I can see why Alex would want there to be an option to choose whether it produces one clip or many.

    I, personally, find the default behaviour is the best for my workflow. I certainly hope Cakewalk spend their time on other issues before they get round to offering us an alternative.

    Cheers

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    Re: Bounce to clips merge into one clip March 28, 14 9:49 PM (permalink)
    It's a feature request (not a bug) so I would hope X4. If it memorises the last setting used it won't really matter to me which is the default.
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    Re: Bounce to clips merge into one clip March 29, 14 12:37 AM (permalink)
    I'm not sure I'd have a lot of use for it, but this does seem like a nice workflow option.
     

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