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Need some help figuring out what is wrong
When I listen in the studio is sounds pretty good, headphone sound decent...when i listen in my truck, seems like there is something missing, muffled etc, other music sound great in the truck. I just can't seem to identify what is missing or what the issue is. Any suggestions? http://soundcloud.com/bla.mire/iou-mix-16-03222014
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Re: Need some help figuring out what is wrong
2014/03/24 14:30:27
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You're right. It sounds like there's a big hole in there somewhere. I just can't put my finger on where exactly. I hear lows, mids and highs, but it's like there's a veil pulled over it. Very strange.
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Re: Need some help figuring out what is wrong
2014/03/24 14:59:15
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Tad over compressed very little dynamics, how about a download so I can analyse it some more
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Re: Need some help figuring out what is wrong
2014/03/24 15:29:34
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There does seem to be some high-end "sheen" missing, mostly from the vocals and snare as best I can tell - the vocals are as though "pssss" would be more like "pshhh", if you know what I mean, and the snare is fairly fat but is lacking some high end "crack". I would also try backing out the tremelo "pad" or at least move it away from dead center - the mids/center area seems a bit congested. I like the song though - the vocal track in particular is very Geoff Tate-ish.
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Re: Need some help figuring out what is wrong
2014/03/24 19:13:09
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Try some eq between 500-579 and see if that helps any. Nice song though. Peace and Blessings, John
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Re: Need some help figuring out what is wrong
2014/03/25 09:07:25
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ditto on the high end sheen missing.... There is also a hollowness or boxiness to the sound as if the EQ is pulled down in the low mids and bumped a bit too much just above that. This is in the vocal ranges. Go back to a flat EQ and bump the highs a bit to start. Sometimes when we are mixing and wanting it done, we get in a rush and the EQ starts to look like a mess. If things are properly tracked, most EQ curves should be relatively flat with gentle rises and falls where needed. It's not sounding like it's a major fix needed, just some gentle pushes and pulls in the right places to get a full, clear sound.
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Re: Need some help figuring out what is wrong
2014/03/25 10:14:31
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Firstly, great song and playing - on the mix, there's too much competing in the same sonic space and stereo field. Try bouncing all the stereo stuff down to mono and then panning the separate parts to different parts of the stereo field.
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Re: Need some help figuring out what is wrong
2014/03/25 11:04:17
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As far as 'from the studio to the truck', This is an age old conundrum. What it mostly comes down to is that you're not hearing in your environment correctly. Has "Tracey Studio's" rooms been tuned? I don't think the advice above about 'adding' this or that will get you very far. I think removal of frequencies will go a lot further. except for possibly adding some high end sheen 12k up. Try to identify the problem freqs in your truck. probably lows and low mids. A lot of low information (55hz and below) can be removed usually which helps the higher freqs come thru. Best I can offer is to look into HarBal or some other freq analyzer that can show you what you hear.
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TraceyStudios
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Re: Need some help figuring out what is wrong
2014/03/25 17:49:07
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Thanks for all the responses, I will give it another go with your suggestions and repost and see what happens. :)
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Re: Need some help figuring out what is wrong
2014/03/25 17:51:09
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wookie: I can email you an mp3, where?
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Re: Need some help figuring out what is wrong
2014/03/25 20:40:10
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I'm late (again), to my ears it's like it's had a blanket pulled over it. Great suggestions from everyone who got to the party early.
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Re: Need some help figuring out what is wrong
2014/03/26 19:55:14
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It just occurred to me: you might look into phase problems, too.
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Re: Need some help figuring out what is wrong
2014/03/26 20:03:53
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Really good tune. I agree there's something funky w/ the low end (maybe low-mids). Have you tried looking at it w/ a spectrum analyzer? There's a good, free one here: http://www.voxengo.com/group/free-vst-plugins/ (span and span anspec). You have a lot of vibrato on your voice (sounds great, but it's a reality). If I were mixing this, I'd try trimming the low end of your vocal and seeing if that helps. Peace, Ian
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Re: Need some help figuring out what is wrong
2014/03/28 15:26:39
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There's a wide upper mid that almost hurts. Sweep with your eq and find what jumps out and reduce. Kick need more volume and punch . Vocals are a bit washed into the mix. Sounds like phase/flange which makes it a little weird on the ears. Some mentioned phase.. could be
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Re: Need some help figuring out what is wrong
2014/03/28 15:46:45
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I always had a problem going from studio to truck till I got a sub in the studio. In the mean time A/B your mix with a commercial track that you want a comparable sound and see if you can make up the difference in the mix.
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TraceyStudios
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Re: Need some help figuring out what is wrong
2014/03/30 19:32:23
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Re: Need some help figuring out what is wrong
2014/03/30 23:59:16
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This sounds pretty good. Traditionally, the vocals would be a little louder and the watery guitar turned down a hair (they are both in the same vague range but guitars and vocals always fight). Sometimes I'll use the channel tool to place things out of the center and more confined in the center. But it sounds pretty good to my ears otherwise. @
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Re: Need some help figuring out what is wrong
2014/03/31 01:27:34
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if you had more of a bigger chorus in the track it would bring more of an emotion in your voice! just my 2 cents! good song.
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Re: Need some help figuring out what is wrong
2014/03/31 11:54:00
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To my ears, this mix sounds balanced and natural coming through my Rokit 8's. I don't drive a truck, but I think it would sound good in my 2000 Honda Accord. Sometimes you just have to take a break from listening to a song over and over so as not to skew your perspective. Move on to something else, and then come back to this at a later time, and I think you'll be surprised at how good this sounds.
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Re: Need some help figuring out what is wrong
2014/03/31 14:00:23
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thanks all! I think this version is much better than the first. I made changes based on all of the comments. I will give it a few days and listen and see what I think.
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Re: Need some help figuring out what is wrong
2014/03/31 14:12:21
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I tried this one and couldn't get it to play. I'll revisit it later.
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Re: Need some help figuring out what is wrong
2014/03/31 14:33:43
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I think this is sounding better. I would still throw Channel Tools on the tremolo part though and widen it to fall somewhere between the vocals (center) and main guitars (L/R), and perhaps add just a bit of 2-4KHz or so to the snare for pop. But yes, the blanket is certainly starting to lift.
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Re: Need some help figuring out what is wrong
2014/03/31 15:55:39
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Re: Need some help figuring out what is wrong
2014/04/12 00:34:46
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This all sounds nicely balanced to me. The main distraction for me is all the vibrato. Using it both on the instruments and your vocal seems over the top? Just on your vocal would be perfect IMO. Some other effect on the guitars? Wah?
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