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Trivial clip mute issue.
STEPS New project Add a new audio track and drag in a couple of clips. Under the edit filter for the track select Automation -> Volume. Right click a clip Click Clip Mute/Unmute EXPECTED Clip mutes ACTUAL Nothing. Note other envelopes work. (nb if by design, and I doubt it should be, the facility should be greyed out) Can anybody confirm? Thanks...
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Re: Trivial clip mute issue.
2014/03/29 10:27:53
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Works as expected here...
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Re: Trivial clip mute issue.
2014/03/30 16:33:28
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Weird... OK I better check this out some more... Thanks for feedback.
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Re: Trivial clip mute issue.
2014/04/24 12:28:29
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Can no longer reproduce either.... Thanks...
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Re: Trivial clip mute issue.
2014/04/24 14:12:00
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I just had a similar thing where I couldn't slip edit or highlight to delete parts of a track that had automation unless I turned off the little blue "read" icon,,, is this normal?
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Re: Trivial clip mute issue.
2014/04/24 17:33:50
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Give us the specific steps from a new project (like the steps in the first post) and I'll check it out. Thanks.
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Re: Trivial clip mute issue.
2014/04/24 17:41:44
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Cactus Music I just had a similar thing where I couldn't slip edit or highlight to delete parts of a track that had automation unless I turned off the little blue "read" icon,,, is this normal?
I would suspect it had more to do with switching the Edit Filter back to Clips after having enabled/edited the automation. But I don't think that's linked to the Read button in any way, so it would have been a separate action.
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Re: Trivial clip mute issue.
2014/04/24 18:11:44
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Thanks Dave I will look for this edit filter, thought it might be that kind of thing,, You have to bear with me as I still expect things work the way they did in 8.5, I'm still pretty green as far as X behavior goes and I daily run into weird things I don't understand. The tracks are audio, vocals,guitar and are not continuous having a few punch ins so might involve 4 or more " clips" if that is what they become? I myself have never knowingly changed anything about the actual tracks. But I will admit I often accidentally will hit keys by mistake. Now I will say all of these started life in 8.5 if that makes a difference. But what I find is the minute I add automation to a track it becomes stubborn and cannot be highlighted or edited. So I have to delete all envelopes and then toggle the R off and the track becomes "normal" again. Thank goodness I did not spend any time writing the automation and it's easily re done. I poked around looking for some clue to what "state" it had become. The new "help" files are obviously only on line but I downloaded the PDF and wade my way though it when bored. I also have a copy of Scott's Power for X1 which is easy reading and a great help, I think everything is still relevant to x3 but I have only made it to page 78. Anyhow if it's like 8.5 it will be a year before I'm doing things correctly. The forum is a big part of the learning process for me. Trouble is we don't like to ask a million questions about the stuff that's most likely well covered somewhere in the text.
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Re: Trivial clip mute issue.
2014/04/24 19:08:25
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Definitely sounds like an Edit Filter thing.
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Re: Trivial clip mute issue.
2014/04/24 21:10:31
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I have been happily using Sonar/ Cakewalk since 2004,,,an edit filter is a new one to me, just goes to show.. sorry for the hijack Alex,, I figured you wouldn't be too upset..
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Re: Trivial clip mute issue.
2014/04/25 08:07:56
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Re: Trivial clip mute issue.
2014/04/25 11:17:08
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Cactus Music But what I find is the minute I add automation to a track it becomes stubborn and cannot be highlighted or edited.
Yeah that's totally Edit Filter behavior. I still bump my head on that regularly, partly because the Smart tool is so all-powerful that I expect it to be ready to do anything I want all the time. Adding an automation envelope automatically changes the Edit Filter to that automation type so you can edit it without accidentally moving/editing other objects. The quick way to get back to editing the clip is to Shift+click it. Or you can explicitly change it using the picker in the track header or in the Tools HUD (T or Center/Wheel+click). Shift+click on the envelope (or another envelope), and you're editing the envelope again.
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