cparmerlee
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Looking for good, simple WAV splitter
There are dozens of WAV/MP3 splitters out there, some free, some $20-$40. I have tested a bunch of them and I am just not finding what I am looking for. I do a lot of live recordings. Sometimes I leave the recorder running for a long time before or after the set. I am looking for a program that can take in as many as 16 large WAV files and apply the exact same split points to all of them, and then save without any re-sampling or other losses. My goal is to cut the size of the files I will save permanently, and cut the size of the files I run into SONAR for mixing. Most of the programs are MP only ar else convert the files to MP3 internally. And very few of the programs purport to apply the same split points to multiple files simultaneously, which is my main requirement. The closest thing I have found is http://www.pistonsoft.com/mp3-splitter.html, but I cannot get this to work with multiple files. I am using the trial version of the Pro program, which theoretically should allow me to split all my files in the same places. But I can't make it work and there is virtually no documentation. Has anybody else found software that does this in a simple way without any audio loss? I guess an alternative is to run all the files into SONAR and do the splits there, then bounce all of that to new tracks, then throw away everything but the bounced audio that I want to keep. I was just looking for a simpler solution. Any suggestions are welcome.
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cparmerlee
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Re: Looking for good, simple WAV splitter
2014/04/02 23:44:00
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I just came across one called Visual MP3 Splitter & Joiner 8.2 by Maniac Tools http://www.maniactools.com/soft/mp3-splitter-joiner/ I haven't tested it yet, but it looks like it could work. I little expensive. It appears you have to buy 5 programs for $60. But it it does the job, I can live with that. Anybody using that one?
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Re: Looking for good, simple WAV splitter
2014/04/02 23:54:33
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I'm assuming you're recording 16 channels live and then want to cut the resulting recording up at each song.
If that's the case you can do that in Sonar by loading the individual tracks line them all up at the start and make your split points across each track simultaneously.
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cparmerlee
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Re: Looking for good, simple WAV splitter
2014/04/03 01:33:28
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mudgel
I'm assuming you're recording 16 channels live and then want to cut the resulting recording up at each song.
If that's the case you can do that in Sonar by loading the individual tracks line them all up at the start and make your split points across each track simultaneously.
No. I will process the entire program in one pass under Sonar. I am just trying to find a quick way to get rid of a bunch of fat that I don't need to carry around. I might have an extra half-gig of junk on each of the tracks. I'd like to cleave that off before I start working with SONAR. It will save a lot of disk space over time and make things a little less cluttered. I got that Maniac Tools program to do what I need. It isn't the most intuitive program ever, but it will do the job. But I have to drag the separate files in one at a time and add the split points to each. It does remember the split point from the previous file so I don't have to actually type in the start and end times for each file. But it isn't as easy as dragging in all 16 files at once and setting a split point that applies to all of them. So I don't think I'll pay 60 bucks for that. I think I could do the splits and bounces in SONAR about as fast.
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Re: Looking for good, simple WAV splitter
2014/04/03 08:14:36
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Wavepad and Audacity are wave editors and are free. I use Wavepad in my work here. It's all manual when it comes to splitting and trimming. But easy enough to handle. From the OP, my assumption is that you have 16 unique waves with unwanted stuff before and after the section you do want to keep. If that is the case, Wavepad will let you see the wave file, and you can easily jump to a point in it, zoom in or out as needed, and make a trim of the start or end from that point in the file. I use this to trim the count in and the ending silence from the finished song files I export. http://www.nch.com.au/wavepad/index.html the DL comes as a full featured demo for a limited time. It shuts off after that time but gives you the option to continue to use it for free in the demo mode. The essential functions keep working
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cparmerlee
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Re: Looking for good, simple WAV splitter
2014/04/03 10:17:50
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you have 16 unique waves with unwanted stuff before and after the section you do want to keep.
I think the issue is that I want to make sure I trim the starting point to EXACTLY the same place n each file so that there won't be any time alignment issues when I bring those files into SONAR. I guess any WAV editor will do that if I carefully type in the starting time 16 times. I was looking for a solution where I could drag and drop all 16 files, make a single selection of the start time and end time and have the cuts take care of all 16 files at once, without any resampling. I am coming to the conclusion that the fastest way to do this may be to bring the files directly into SONAR, Split them, delete the portions I never want to keep at all, then bounce all those tracks so that the shorter files will be on my Audio folder. Then go out and manually delete everything I don't want to keep, saving only the desired sections from the Audio folder. That's not really a bad thing because there is some basic prep work I do before actually starting a mix, including normalizing the tracks, matrixing mid-side mics if I used any of those, and running the files through RX3 to reduce ambient noise and self-noise, so I could trim the files at the same time.
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Re: Looking for good, simple WAV splitter
2014/04/03 11:07:33
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Doing this manually will require some rolling up your sleeves and doing some work. But you know that.
What I would first think to do would be to split the clips where I want a song to start / stop - and then go one of two ways after insuring I had the original project protected. 1) drag the split clips to new tracks (Apply Trimming Command) and then delete the originals and save as for that particular songs name.- Repeat for next song 2) or drag the split tracks/clips into a new project (Apply Trimming Command) and save as and again repeat.
Bouncing not necessary.
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cparmerlee
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Re: Looking for good, simple WAV splitter
2014/04/04 09:14:21
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musicroom
Doing this manually will require some rolling up your sleeves and doing some work. But you know that.
What I would first think to do would be to split the clips where I want a song to start / stop - and then go one of two ways after insuring I had the original project protected. 1) drag the split clips to new tracks (Apply Trimming Command) and then delete the originals and save as for that particular songs name.- Repeat for next song 2) or drag the split tracks/clips into a new project (Apply Trimming Command) and save as and again repeat.
Bouncing not necessary.
That is not what I am trying to accomplish. On programs like this i do NOT split the songs to separate files. I operate on the whole program because the mix for one tune is usually the same or very close to the next. So I mix it as one big unit and only split out the songs as I export the stereo mix. All I am trying to do is throw away all the junk before and after the program without affecting the quality of the remaining material. I don't want to keep all those extra gigabytes on my storage system.
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Re: Looking for good, simple WAV splitter
2014/04/04 09:26:15
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I may not fully understand what you are attempting to do (like probably so seeing my other posts) but if you load a big*ss wave file you want to defat-icize
1. load the giant wav into sonar
2. zoom way in far enough you can actually see the waveform at the desired cut point
3. right click and split the wav into two clips
4. go to the other end of the fat-zone, zoom in and split again
5. click on the fat you want to get rid of and hit delete
6. repeat until all of the fat is cooked off
7. select the entire waveform and bounce to clip(s) to drain the grease away (the extra megabytes consumed by the fat is now gone)
8. make gravy out of the excess grease, serve on biscuits
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cparmerlee
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Re: Looking for good, simple WAV splitter
2014/04/04 09:37:58
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Timeking
I may not fully understand what you are attempting to do (like probably so seeing my other posts) but if you load a big*ss wave file you want to defat-icize
1. load the giant wav into sonar
2. zoom way in far enough you can actually see the waveform at the desired cut point
3. right click and split the wav into two clips
4. go to the other end of the fat-zone, zoom in and split again
5. click on the fat you want to get rid of and hit delete
6. repeat until all of the fat is cooked off
7. select the entire waveform and bounce to clip(s) to drain the grease away (the extra megabytes consumed by the fat is now gone)
8. make gravy out of the excess grease, serve on biscuits
Yes sir. That is the procedure I think it is boiling down to. I was hoping there might be a compact AVE splitter that would make it easy to do this, but I haven't found anything that is easier and less fattening than the Sonar procedure your outlined.
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Re: Looking for good, simple WAV splitter
2014/04/04 09:41:25
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Once you have done your mix all you have to do is select all and while holding ctrl split all the tracks at the same spot. Then run the mouse over the time ruler to select the part you don't want and right click Edit/Delete. if for some reason you are not happy with that goto undo.
By the way even though you have deleted the portions of the track/s in the TV they are still there on disk if they are wave files.
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Re: Looking for good, simple WAV splitter
2014/04/05 23:29:18
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I think you might be over complicating this. If you want a subset of the recordings in SONAR and don't want to backup the files I think you can do it all inside SONAR without any external apps.
- Import the original wave files choosing NOT to copy the wave files. This will reference the original files.
- trim the clips as desired in SONAR
- select all the clips and choose apply trimming to keep only the trimmed data
- File save as and choose to save a bundle file. This will save a bundle of only the trimmed audio
- Reopen bundle to a new per project audio file and let it create a file per clip. You now have clean wave files for exactly what was trimmed
- delete the original source wave files once you are sure you have what you need
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