drewfx1
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In honor of drummers...
I'm listening to drum/percussive music today. Currently listening to the Pete Lockett's Network of Sparks One CD I got recently for the first time: http://www.petelockett.com/sparks.html Sorry, no drummer jokes here.
 In order, then, to discover the limit of deepest tones, it is necessary not only to produce very violent agitations in the air but to give these the form of simple pendular vibrations. - Hermann von Helmholtz, predicting the role of the electric bassist in 1877.
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Moshkiae
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Re: In honor of drummers...
2014/04/06 15:50:37
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Hi,
You need "Niagara". Two albums, ALL DRUMMERS from Germany! Kinda interesting though many of you are gonna say ... boring!
Check out Mani Neumeier (Guru Guru) and what he does with the guitarist in "Dance of the Flames". Sometimes he plays with the guitarist and sometimes with the no one at all, and it creates a wonderful mix all around. He's also a terrific thrasher and has done many shows/albums with Acid Mothers Temple.
Check out Pierre Moerlin in "You" by Gong. The two long cuts back to back in the album do not have a break, and that drumming is out of this world! Very much in the "time and place" as opposed to simple numbers and metronomic displays like most drummers today!
Other than Bonzo and Moonie, those are my favorite drummers though I have a soft spot for Bill Bruford, and what he went on to do which was much more challenging all around. His solo stuff is very different than what we know him for, and the KC stuff is not even as good as what he went on to do later.
Most drummers, are too metronomic for my tastes. A lot of folks like Mike that left Dream Theater, but he's not really that great at all, just a very good showman, and what's his name in Porcupine Tree is also over rated and way too metronomic for my tastes as well.
But then, I kinda loved the old school Nick Mason, and most people didn't. He was never about drumming, but all "touch", and this is the part that 9 out of 10 drummers do not have, because they need that snare drum to keep time. Watch Mani and Pierre go in and out of time all the time and somehow the band never loses trakc of their connection and what they are playing. The "timing" and "metronomic" functions in music are grossly over rated and most drummers do not know the difference.
As a wise Guy once stated from his holy chapala ... none of the hits, none of the time ... prevents you from becoming just another turkey in the middle of all the other turkeys!
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drewfx1
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Re: In honor of drummers...
2014/04/06 16:07:25
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Moshkiae
I have a soft spot for Bill Bruford, and what he went on to do which was much more challenging all around. His solo stuff is very different than what we know him for, and the KC stuff is not even as good as what he went on to do later.
What do you mean "we"? Some of us have a rather large collection of works Mr. Bruford contributed to.  You might enjoy BLUE if you are not familiar with it: http://www.amazon.com/Bru...emities/dp/B003O57L2I/
Most drummers, are too metronomic for my tastes. A lot of folks like Mike that left Dream Theater, but he's not really that great at all, just a very good showman, and what's his name in Porcupine Tree is also over rated and way too metronomic for my tastes as well.
But then, I kinda loved the old school Nick Mason, and most people didn't. He was never about drumming, but all "touch", and this is the part that 9 out of 10 drummers do not have, because they need that snare drum to keep time. Watch Mani and Pierre go in and out of time all the time and somehow the band never loses trakc of their connection and what they are playing. The "timing" and "metronomic" functions in music are grossly over rated and most drummers do not know the difference.
I'm not sure that the problem is drummers as much as producers and click tracks and groups not recording at the same time and whatnot.
In order, then, to discover the limit of deepest tones, it is necessary not only to produce very violent agitations in the air but to give these the form of simple pendular vibrations. - Hermann von Helmholtz, predicting the role of the electric bassist in 1877.
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jamesg1213
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Re: In honor of drummers...
2014/04/06 17:13:21
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Moshkiae
Hi,
You need "Niagara". Two albums, ALL DRUMMERS from Germany! Kinda interesting though many of you are gonna say ... boring!
Yep, that's exactly what I'm going to say.
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craigb
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Re: In honor of drummers...
2014/04/06 17:19:39
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What? No love for Jerry Lewis?  Think of the kids! (Didn't see Terry Bozzio or Neil Peart mentioned either...)
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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Re: In honor of drummers...
2014/04/06 17:50:39
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jamesg1213
Moshkiae
Hi,
You need "Niagara". Two albums, ALL DRUMMERS from Germany! Kinda interesting though many of you are gonna say ... boring!
Yep, that's exactly what I'm going to say.
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UbiquitousBubba
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Re: In honor of drummers...
2014/04/07 08:46:42
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I watched Rush's Clockwork Angels DVD recently. Neil is still incredible. Even if some other drummers can deliver more inhuman technical ability, I really enjoy Neil's playing. To play at his level for so long is an amazing accomplishment.
I also enjoyed Dream Theater's latest concert video. Mike is very, very fast, technically brilliant, and absolutely insane on stage. Half of the show is watching his facial expressions. When he cuts loose, he's a force of nature.
These two drummers are at the top of their game and I thoroughly enjoy watching them work.
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Beagle
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Re: In honor of drummers...
2014/04/07 08:58:58
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two words: Carl Palmer. of course, this means I don't know drummers or progressive rock at all. in fact, I don't know Jack. and that's a fact Jack! HEY!
post edited by Beagle - 2014/04/07 09:05:15
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Moshkiae
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Re: In honor of drummers...
2014/04/07 09:21:58
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drewfx1
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I'm not sure that the problem is drummers as much as producers and click tracks and groups not recording at the same time and whatnot.
I think you maybe right. But the band next door, of 18 year olds, and the kid is taking drum lessons, and let me tell you that the kid has a touch, and it's being taken out of him! I kinda think that there is too much time keeping instead of musicianship. Time keeping you can do with a metronome and you don't need to waste a person on it. Sometimes that rock/jazz thing is really silly and boring because of it.
As a wise Guy once stated from his holy chapala ... none of the hits, none of the time ... prevents you from becoming just another turkey in the middle of all the other turkeys!
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