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Re: G-Force Minimonsta half off
2014/04/08 11:58:16
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I have had this for ages and its one of my goto synths. I just checked my account and found that there is now a 64 bit version.  I missed that - I never saw any notifications
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Re: G-Force Minimonsta half off
2014/04/08 12:27:54
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I've long used the free Minimogue for Minimoog emulation. Although it adds features the original never had, to my ear it sounds authentic.
I know Minimonsta is very popular, though, making me curious as to why people are willing to pay $250 for it when there are a number of less-expensive (even free) alternatives. I've heard the developer say it's the sound quality. But the Minimoog only offered 3 basic waveforms; how different can two virtual pulse-width oscillators sound?
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Re: G-Force Minimonsta half off
2014/04/08 16:51:22
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Not sure. Filters? Synth guys always talk about them filters. Though I've noticed that most of the time, the "better-sounding" synth are the ones where the actual sound is "enhanced" w/ onboard fx which didn't exist on the original.
Anyway, I'm a guitar guy and quite happy w/ the MiniMoog which Arturia gave for free on music day a few years ago. That one and Steinberg's Retrologue, which isn't an exact replica but does the Moog thing brilliantly and the easiest for me to use.
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Re: G-Force Minimonsta half off
2014/04/08 17:27:55
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☄ Helpfulby Rain 2014/04/08 17:27:26
Yah, filters.
I guess I've never been a real "synth guy" because I've never waxed romantic about filters.
This'll sound like heresy, but Moog filters never seemed particularly special to me. They were steeper than most, and responsible for the classic Moog sound. But while 24dB/octave filters were rare in the 70's, and the Moog filter was an elegant design, such filters are not at all difficult to implement in the digital domain. I would expect one 4-pole LPF to sound pretty much like the next. Unless, of course, I'm wrong about that.
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Re: G-Force Minimonsta half off
2014/04/11 14:13:41
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Well there is patch morphing, OK, not an authentic Mini Moog feature but it adds to Minimonsta's utility. The lower octave is dedicated to key switches. For each patch, each keyswitch will trigger a variation of the sound. The morphing time between the sounds is fully adjustable.
Another non authentic feature is the modulation matrix, as is optionial polyphony.
I recently acquired Monark as part of Komplete 8 and Arturias Mini V in another there V series bundle. I much prefer Minimonsta to either.
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Re: G-Force Minimonsta half off
2014/04/11 20:16:27
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Glyn Barnes
I recently acquired Monark as part of Komplete 8 and Arturias Mini V in another there V series bundle. I much prefer Minimonsta to either.
In terms of sound quality/authenticity or overall, taking into account the extra features?
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Re: G-Force Minimonsta half off
2014/04/12 04:49:33
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Glyn Barnes
I recently acquired Monark as part of Komplete 8 and Arturias Mini V in another there V series bundle. I much prefer Minimonsta to either.
In terms of sound quality/authenticity or overall, taking into account the extra features?
Overall. Monark is certainly the most "authentic" but I like the extra features in Minimonsta and it sounds just as good to my ears. I acquired the Arturia after the other two as part of the V series bundle. To me its the weakest of the V series and I don't like it as much as Minimonsta or Monark.
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Re: G-Force Minimonsta half off
2014/04/12 17:22:54
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are they doing sales like this that often ? imposcar 2 on my list ...i know i don't need it but ....i want it ...lol so at 1/2 prices i will feel less guilty !!
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Re: G-Force Minimonsta half off
2014/04/13 17:56:43
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I'm more one for bundles and since they were rather "funny" with me regarding doing em, they can keep em.
I did buy the v collection 3 recently, do have monarch IRC (it's part of komplete 9 ? ) .. and well do have Diva as well :)
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Re: G-Force Minimonsta half off
2014/04/14 11:07:44
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I own the original Minimonsta (x86), and I do like it a lot. In fact I do prefer it to Minimogue and others that I've tried. That said, even at half off I don't think I'll be upgrading, $115 is more than it is worth to me right now.
If cash were endless I'd have all of the GForce synthesizers, and the TimewARP 2600 as well, but cash is not currently endless. And sometimes one needs to make choices between the best emulation, and good enough.
So what do I hear as a difference between Minimonsta and Minimogue? I think it has more to do with what I don't hear... there are artifacts (for lack of a better term) that I hear when I use extreme settings on the Minimogue. The Minimonsta works better with these settings.
Now I have to confess that I am not a Mini Moog guru, most of my time was spent with a Korg MS-20 and an ARP 2600. The thing that makes the TimewARP 2600 interesting is some of the old "tricks" - strange settings that none of the other emulations emulate<G>!
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Re: G-Force Minimonsta half off
2014/04/14 12:06:41
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wst3
I own the original Minimonsta (x86), and I do like it a lot. In fact I do prefer it to Minimogue and others that I've tried. That said, even at half off I don't think I'll be upgrading, $115 is more than it is worth to me right now.
If you own the x86 version the 64 bit upgrade is free
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