Sonar X3 Stability Compared to Sonar X1

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2014/04/14 09:07:17 (permalink)

Sonar X3 Stability Compared to Sonar X1

I know this may be a weird question but how is the stability of Sonar X3 compared to Sonar x1?  I'm thinking about upgrading and so far on almost all of the reviews I see about Sonar X3, it says it is rock solid.  I am having some drop outs and crashes ever so often on Sonar X1 so I'm thinking about upgrading.  
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Re: Sonar X3 Stability Compared to Sonar X1 2014/04/14 09:12:46 (permalink)
Sonar X3d is running rock solid for me so far. I have it on my studio desktop and my performance laptop. I work in all types of formats and styles on a daily basis and it has been absolutely rock solid. We all still wait for something to be done with the notation part. I think it's safe to say it just won't happen.
Otherwise, I have relied on Sonar as my main goto workstation for many years. X3 is the strongest I have seen since using Cake.

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Re: Sonar X3 Stability Compared to Sonar X1 2014/04/14 09:19:09 (permalink)
I don't think I've seen a single crash with X3. Pretty impressive now that I think of it...
 
 

 
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Re: Sonar X3 Stability Compared to Sonar X1 2014/04/14 09:21:59 (permalink)
X3e also has been rock solid for me.  Very pleased.
X1 crashed quite often, as did X2...X3...nope..solid.


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Re: Sonar X3 Stability Compared to Sonar X1 2014/04/14 09:30:27 (permalink)
Make a backup, download the trial and see if it meets your needs on your PC. If it does not there may be some configuration adjustments which may also help with X1.
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Re: Sonar X3 Stability Compared to Sonar X1 2014/04/14 11:30:53 (permalink)
Thank you to everyone for their responses!  Really good info!  Looks like I'll be upgrading to Sonar X3!  
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Re: Sonar X3 Stability Compared to Sonar X1 2014/04/14 11:41:20 (permalink)
I have seen more crashes and dropouts on X3 than I saw on X1D.. but then again everyone's machine and setup is different and many people do not use the features or initiate the varied circumstances that cause specific (or weird) crashes.
There are plenty of other good and solid reasons to migrate from X1 to X3 though, and so I would heartily suggest that you do so.. There re many feature enhancements that will (should) make your workflow easier.. but I think that anything else other than saying  "it generally should be better on X3 than X1" is a bit of a crap shoot.

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Re: Sonar X3 Stability Compared to Sonar X1 2014/04/14 12:22:07 (permalink)
My X3 setup has worked very well, X1 was definitely apt to crash at least once a session. 
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Re: Sonar X3 Stability Compared to Sonar X1 2014/04/14 18:34:19 (permalink)
Sonar X3D and E are about on par with X1D, in my recent experience.
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Re: Sonar X3 Stability Compared to Sonar X1 2014/04/15 08:20:57 (permalink)
My bad! I forgot I'm up to E version!

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Re: Sonar X3 Stability Compared to Sonar X1 2014/04/15 08:22:34 (permalink)
X1 did seem sluggish and clunky after coming off of 8.5. X2 was much, much better. X3e wins the cigar so far!

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Re: Sonar X3 Stability Compared to Sonar X1 2014/04/15 10:16:39 (permalink)
@Mystic38 - I would welcome any opportunity to help you figure out why you are crashing at all with X3 - can you please post some threads with each issue?
 
I'm willing to try if you are willing to give it a shot, 
 
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Re: Sonar X3 Stability Compared to Sonar X1 2014/04/15 10:19:06 (permalink)
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Thank you to everyone for their responses!  Really good info!  Looks like I'll be upgrading to Sonar X3!  


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Re: Sonar X3 Stability Compared to Sonar X1 2014/04/15 12:46:45 (permalink)
Project 5 hey! Funny I was looking over some Cakewalk wallpapers the other day going back to Sonar 3 including Cakewalk and Project 5 motifs. Nostalgia.

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Re: Sonar X3 Stability Compared to Sonar X1 2014/04/15 13:56:30 (permalink)
Crash-Free since X3e!

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Re: Sonar X3 Stability Compared to Sonar X1 2014/04/15 14:08:49 (permalink)
I'm still only on X3c and aside from a couple glitches when I was being a total spazz it has been rock solid. I've done extensive recording audio and MIDI, comping/editing and a bit of mixing. Haven't dug into more obscure parts of the program yet but yeah... I don't even have to think about the program borking out anymore. X1d was kind of solid but crashed hard sometimes, X2 was a glitchfest but X3 has been a dream. I haven't changed my system in any way even though I was planning on completely wiping the system and starting from scratch. I've been seeing a lot of complaints about comping mode but they seem to be mostly confusion/workflow based and comping does take a bit of learning but if you switch to the other editing modes then it's just like editing in a more traditional setting (which is what I did until I spent the 20 minutes it took to learn Comp mode).
 
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Re: Sonar X3 Stability Compared to Sonar X1 2014/04/15 17:49:07 (permalink)
X3E is just better all round than X1D for all sorts of reasons including stability.

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Re: Sonar X3 Stability Compared to Sonar X1 2014/04/15 18:11:01 (permalink)
X1 was a toddler. Often adorable, but had a hard time at first learning to walk - and you did have to change the diapers until he grew up to X1d.
X2 was a teenager. Generally a good kid, despite moments of angst. However, dropped out of school before graduating to X2b.
X3 went back to school, graduated with honors, and is now a mature yet fun-loving adult. You're glad he moved in next door and became your neighbor.

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Re: Sonar X3 Stability Compared to Sonar X1 2014/04/16 10:56:08 (permalink)
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I'm still only on X3c and aside from a couple glitches when I was being a total spazz it has been rock solid. I've done extensive recording audio and MIDI, comping/editing and a bit of mixing. Haven't dug into more obscure parts of the program yet but yeah... I don't even have to think about the program borking out anymore. X1d was kind of solid but crashed hard sometimes, X2 was a glitchfest but X3 has been a dream. I haven't changed my system in any way even though I was planning on completely wiping the system and starting from scratch. I've been seeing a lot of complaints about comping mode but they seem to be mostly confusion/workflow based and comping does take a bit of learning but if you switch to the other editing modes then it's just like editing in a more traditional setting (which is what I did until I spent the 20 minutes it took to learn Comp mode).
 
tl;dr
 
It works. Do it. Cheers.

Lots of fixes and enhancements between x3c and the current x3e. You should update too. You only need to apply X3e update as it's cumulative.

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Re: Sonar X3 Stability Compared to Sonar X1 2014/04/16 17:26:03 (permalink)
Hi, mudge. Yeah, I intend to. Just haven't really had my head into the whole music thing because of some extremely annoying crap going on around here. Funny thing is I've actually been using Pyro to help me document a bunch of stuff and then did a massive splicejob in X3. I should be able to get back to work on some creative work again soon though so I'm going to update a bunch of stuff on the DAW including Sonar.
 
Still though the type of work I've been doing would have been a nightmare in X2 on my system (they did not play nice together for whatever reason) and before all this I was doing a ton of tracking and comping without any problems. I'm gonna be delving into some video stuff soon so I definitely want those enhancements installed.
 
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Re: Sonar X3 Stability Compared to Sonar X1 2014/04/16 19:18:23 (permalink)
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X1 was a toddler. Often adorable, but had a hard time at first learning to walk - and you did have to change the diapers until he grew up to X1d.
X2 was a teenager. Generally a good kid, despite moments of angst. However, dropped out of school before graduating to X2b.
X3 went back to school, graduated with honors, and is now a mature yet fun-loving adult. You're glad he moved in next door and became your neighbor.




 
A really entertaining way to put it, Craig.
 
I just upgraded from X1 to X3 Producer at the beginning of this month. X3E is stable here. I'm still venturing around in it, and loving it.
 
One thing I can say which I'm glad to report is that MIDI features are more stable than in X1. In X1, when assigning controllers to the Cakewalk Generic Surface and the ACT MIDI controller, and then using ACT learn to assign contollers to control parameters of the ProChannel QuadCurve EQ, my ProChannel parameter assignments used to get lost when I closed a project, and I would have to assign them all over again when I reopened a project. I'm glad to say with SONAR X3E, they are remembered!
 
It is a big deal for me to have MIDI features working correctly in SONAR, as all my music production is done using softsynths and a Master MIDI Keyboard controller! I am elated that MIDI features are working right in X3E. I am really proud and pleased that Cakewalk has this working reliably. When I was beta testing for a certain Avid hardware product, they used to give me bad reports about ACT not working reliably, and since I was having problems myself, I couldn't reply strongly in support of SONAR. Now that MIDI features are working reliably, I can stand proud in defense of SONAR being strong and Professional in major areas where it certainly should shine!
 
I tell you I'm elated with SONAR X3 Producer! Thank you for the great work, Noel and the devlopement team (and beta testers and forum members submitting bug reports)! With all the great enhancements and added features from X2 and now X3, SONAR is truely shining brightly with the biggest contenders in the professional DAW field, now! This is such an exciting time! I'm so pleased and proud of SONAR X3 Producer!
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Re: Sonar X3 Stability Compared to Sonar X1 2014/04/16 19:59:44 (permalink)
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X1 was a toddler. Often adorable, but had a hard time at first learning to walk - and you did have to change the diapers until he grew up to X1d.
X2 was a teenager. Generally a good kid, despite moments of angst. However, dropped out of school before graduating to X2b.
X3 went back to school, graduated with honors, and is now a mature yet fun-loving adult. You're glad he moved in next door and became your neighbor.


A really entertaining way to put it, Craig.


 
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