[Workaround] Hide Midi Velocity bars completely?

I've wondered this as well?

If there is not a way a shortcut key might be a good work around.

Your first answer is what I was looking for. As you said, making the controller pane visible, the bars are gone from the PRV. If I slide the controller pane all the way down so it disappears, the velocity bars reappear in the PRV. But if I leave just a sliver of it visible, the bars stay out of the PRV. Which works for me. Thanks!

benjaminfrog
Sonar does not retain turning off the Show Velocity setting in the PRV after you close/relaunch the program. Well, actually, the item is still unchecked, but the velocity lines display again.
 
I've been reporting this to Cakewalk since, if memory serves, X1. My most recent report of this is CWBRN-20156. If you haven't already, please submit your own reports, so they're aware there are more of us who would like to see this fixed.
 
Thanks.

This happens to me sometimes. Not on all projects but some....
 
Its very annoying.

It was marked "solved" because the OP wanted to know how to hide MIDI velocity bars completely. After I suggested minimizing the Velocity pane, he said "...if I leave just a sliver of it visible, the bars stay out of the PRV. Which works for me. Thanks!"
 
"Solved" doesn't mean the bug was fixed, it means he has a solution to his issue. However, given subsequent comments, it seems "Workaround" is more appropriate.
 
 

I don't understand why this is some kind of show-stopping problem.  Sonar doesn't retain your Show Velocity setting when you close/relaunch, and that seems like a good default to me.  I can't possibly construe that to be a "bug."

Since the Piano Roll View is the heart of MIDI production, usually you want to see as much MIDI data as possible when working - and Velocity is rather one of the most important things to see.  If, for some reason, you don't want to see Velocities during an editing session, then you can turn them off, but I don't know why you wouldn't want that to be only a temporary condition.  There's a better way to not see Velocities though--

The setting that Sonar Does retain between sessions is Show/Hide controller pane.  Once you always have Velocities (and potentially, every other kind of MIDI data) displayed properly in their own PRV pane, you can always have the unobstructed view of the notes best for editing.  If you don't want to see any Velocities or other data, you just drag that pane area down to focus on the notes.  

That's the way it's been in Cakewalk for many versions, and the defaults work and make total sense.  I haven't seen velocities superimposed on top of notes for years, because my Show/Hide controller pane is set in the best way for editing - and stays that way.  I've never had to deal with, or even think about the Show Velocity option - of Course I want to have my Velocities available!--but I can easily hide them if I temporarily need more screen space for editing notes.

Or did I somehow misunderstand what the issue is supposed to be on this thread--?

Randy B.

Anderton...I think they're saying that a setting that doesn't persist is a bug...

You're talking to the OP, right, Craig?--because my post earlier is explaining why I don't think there's anyway the defaults we have in the PRV are "bugs."  It's pretty rare that we don't want to see Velocity - and all we have to do is drag the Controller Pane section down as we edit.  Having the panes always showing, instead of having data superimposed on top of notes is the only thing that makes sense to me, so that's permanently on - but people who for some reason like things jumbled up on one screen have that option if they want.
 

Anderton...Cakewalk figured that, like you, seeing velocity is something most users want...

 
Right!  Turning "Show Velocity" may be something useful to some people, turning it on or off as needed - But it seems like maybe those people haven't grasped why the key ingredient here is the "Show/Hide controller pane" option.  Have that on, it will always be on - You don't want to see Velocity?-- pull the panes down.  It's really simple.
 
Randy
 
 

Anderton...Yes, talking to the OP. But it was pointed out that pulling the panes down doesn't change the behavior unless you have just a tiny sliver of pane showing...

 
OH!--I see - Like you, I've never noticed that odd little bit, of needing a sliver of the pane showing, since I never use the "Show Velocity" option.  My advice to the OP is as I've said - to not even use that option.  Just have the controller panes on, and if you don't want to see Velocities, pull that area down.  The two options are competing with each other in this other, more complicated scenario - But thanks, now I understand why it is a glitch, if someone insists on using "Show Velocities"-- (even though there's no need to).  Thanks, Craig.

Randy B.
 

benjaminfrog...I certainly don't consider this a show-stopper - just an annoyance...

Hi, Benjamin - I'm probably being thick, but I still don't understand why there's any annoyance.  Your goal is to not have velocities displayed.  Apparently you don't want to see them either superimposed on the notes, or in the PRV's Velocity pane.  I completely sympathize with not wanting them plopped on top of the note display - Messy! - And of course that's easily remedied by having the Controller Panes section of the PRV turned on.  That setting is retained by Sonar.  Once that's turned on, if you don't want to see velocities displayed, you just pull the divider down so that lower part of the PRV isn't visible.  You can focus just on notes.  

So, I've never used the Hide Velocity option, because I've never understood why I would need that.  If I don't want to see them, I just hide the controller pane.  But I've never met a MIDI track that didn't need some editing done to its velocities, so I always want their display easily accessible -- So - ??

Randy