SOLVED: Q re the audio folder Sonar uses for Projects...

Anyone?
 
I mean I COULD use CWB files (as I think this compacts the wav data to destructively apply the audio edits) but I have read elsewhere on this forum that CWB files are no longer considered safe? I used to use them all the time in the past.

Thanks - but CWB doesn't do what I need after all. It creates a single file, that is STILL the same size as the original audio folder.
 
What I want to know is how I can tell Sonar to overwrite an imported audio track with the edits (ie removed sections, db changes, and on an on. Instead of it recreating a duplicate audio track. As I said if I delete either the original source audio track (IE imported audio track) OR the edited version, the project then does not play as Sonar then says it cannot find the audio data and fills the tracks with blank data!
 
The original audio data for the above file is approx 35mb, the CWP file after edits (and in most cases it is data REMOVED, not added) jumps to double the size?

10 hours ago
To joden
Posting didn't work with two diff browsers so I'll try the pm route..
I'm on 8.5 but unless they changed it- my take is the editing/trimming tools and/or deleting parts off of a track does not reduce file sizes.
Save As' to a new project (if you want a safety to retain the original).
Do your trims.
Bounce the ones that are shortened to new tracks.
Delete everything not needed. Save' and a 'Consolidate Audio gets you the new compact project version.
 Wayne Smith
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joden 
51 minutes ago

Hi Wayne,
Thanks for that. ummm, I am not sure I fully understand the methodology you are explaining. In my case I have all my projects already set, so can I simply open an existing project, "bounce" the tracks that have edits and then re-save?
 
The reason I ask is I have , for eg, a bass track that is totally deleted, however the actual audio for the deleted bass track STILL resides in the audio folder for the project? 
Dennis
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I'll try this forum posting for a third time, see if it works today.. LOL
What we're doing here is using the Consolidate Audio backup tool- which is good for cleaning out all the audio that you delete from a proj, but is still in the audio folder.
In this case you are making a new project by way of 'save-as to a new name. And in this one after you trim out and delete everything you don't need for the scaled down version, save it then run Consolidate'. That makes a new folder with just that data in it.

Good enough. Two things though-
a) That's fine if and when the tracks are simple to identify -ie not a bunch of punches bits and pieces to sort out (or get wrong for that matter.
b) After a 'consolidate and save, close and just re-flag the project to the your new audio folder, and restart the proj- that willl shift' the project to the new folder.
Overall- maybe easier and safer too.

Sorry, I dropped off on you, I have been busy lately so glad that Wayne chimed in!
 
Something came to mind that may also help, which is doing a "save as..." on a project to be moved to the laptop. If you create a new folder, and select "Copy all audio with project" then only the required audio for the project will get copied. Using a prefix in the folder name (like "Laptop -") will group them all together visually. This will at least make folders with only the audio you need on the laptop, but will add space to your DAW.
 
 

Correct. SONAR does not delete audio on you (which is actually very important if you back-track in a project), but a current project file only points to the audio it needs. I popped open the biggest project I have with multitudes of audio files, and about 15 project versions... saving one project to a new folder only moved 4 audio files, so the "save as" is handy to keep track of which audio is for which project version.
 
I honestly have never cleaned audio off my machine just because of how cheap desktop storage has become, but definitely understand the issues with laptops. I am glad that option works for you.