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Re: The best purchase that I've ever made to improve my mixing with Sonar 2014/04/17 22:17:29 (permalink)
kennywtelejazz
+1 on the videos being sold at the Cakewalk store 
I picked up 2 this week …the Rapture and Dim Pro ..together they both ran me $9.99… 
that was a score in my book and I want to get deeper w both synths 
 
I've been eying a couple of Craig's older video's ..they also seem to be on sale ...

Kenny
 


It's an old one, but that tutorial on Rapture mentioned above is really helpful. Lots of knobs on that thing. I found this $5 video helpful. There are many cool synths out there, but I still chortle when I pick a good Rapture preset. It's neat to have some clues as to how the sound can be adjusted. That video gave me some info that I would never have been able to decipher by just twiddling the knobs.

And + 1 or more for Dan making some fresh Sonar tutorials.

Like others have mentioned above, I take in several Groove 3 video sections daily. Always learning and getting better at this especially due to their excellent tutorials.

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Re: The best purchase that I've ever made to improve my mixing with Sonar 2014/04/18 00:23:22 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bandso 2014/04/18 16:18:25
I'm surprised that no one here mentioned Pensados Place (ITL). Almost 100 videos that cover mixing tips and tricks "all free today".... lol ;)
 
 My #1 rule is GOOD listing skills... The rest can be tweaked in the box. ;)
 
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Re: The best purchase that I've ever made to improve my mixing with Sonar 2014/04/18 08:16:17 (permalink)
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Re: The best purchase that I've ever made to improve my mixing with Sonar 2014/04/18 08:22:29 (permalink)
I watch Pensado's Place. Lots of tips and the interviews are enjoyable, too!
 
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Re: The best purchase that I've ever made to improve my mixing with Sonar 2014/04/18 15:52:30 (permalink)
jkoseattleI don't want to learn! I want to KNOW!

This reminds me of a writer I know who once said: I don't want to write; I want to have written!

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Re: The best purchase that I've ever made to improve my mixing with Sonar 2014/04/18 16:41:49 (permalink)
I just purchased most of the ones that they have on the cake site that I didn't already have. What a steal. As mentioned earlier, some of them were only $5! I'm going to take the long weekend and just soak it all in (We have Monday off as Patriot's day here in Boston). Watching these videos over and over is really starting to replace my regular television viewing...Except for Game Of Thrones anyway...
I just saw the new Cake CA-2A video last night...I had no idea that you could change it to a faster compressor with that tiny little hidden photo cell button.  More pure gold!
    About 6 months ago I checked out the youtube video titled. "How To Master A Song In 7 steps". Pretty good free info (not that I have any real mastering training), enough so that I bit on the full course. It's good food for thought anyway. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0FpX200S1s

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Re: The best purchase that I've ever made to improve my mixing with Sonar 2014/04/18 17:21:24 (permalink)
Well said bandso! The Groove3 vids are excellent. I already own the X1 stuff and a couple of others but when I upgraded to X3 I did the $15 all access pass and went through a stack of tutorials in my lunch breaks at work. There are a few more I want to go through so I'm about to sign up for another month very soon.

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Re: The best purchase that I've ever made to improve my mixing with Sonar 2014/04/18 17:24:44 (permalink)
bandso
This is sort of a post to some of the new users that have come to our little community as of late.
 
For the past decade or so I've had a bad case of gear lust. I've bought entire effects suites from Nomad, Slate, Izotope, IK, (some) Waves, and from anywhere else that I could find; chasing that elusive perfect mix. I just knew that the next plugin would be the magic pill that would put my mixes into the next level. Well I've finally come to realize..I have 15 compressors, 5 tape sims, too many EQ's, and my mixes have stayed more or less the same, minor improvements, but alas the same. Major head scratching was going on for quite some time considering the amount of $ I'd spent.
   Then I stumbled into the world of instructional videos. It seemes that I had fantastic tools right in front of me all of the time but I really didn't know how to use them properly. I had an idea, but not real training. Even stock plugins can be made to shine once you really get a handle on how, why, and where they are supposed to be set. Plain and simple, I was ignorant and didn't even know what was out there to be learned let alone how to learn it. I'm still and will always be a student of audio engineering, but once you have a teacher show you what can be learned then your eyes and ears are opened and a whole new way of mixing is opened up to you.
 
So..why did I post this bit of soul searching. Well... I just finished watching Sonar tips and tricks from groove3.com and I'm just totally blown away. All of the Sonar related groove3 videos, the ones in the cake store, youtube, and others have helped me grow way more than any $500 effect bundle ever did. Plus for the most part they are dirt cheap compared to a new mic, plugin, or interface.
If you are looking to spend a little cash to invest in your studio, invest in yourself. Get these videos so you can at least see all that your powerful DAW has to offer. Feed your head, FEED IT!


I am a new user (75 days or so) .  A few weeks ago I started watching the Groove 3 Tutorials.  Meanwhile I was overtaken by events.  Your post reminds me how very useful the tips and tutorials are. I shall once again pursure  my quest to learn the stuff "reelgud"!!  Thanks
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Re: The best purchase that I've ever made to improve my mixing with Sonar 2014/04/18 17:26:46 (permalink)
I've watched piles of videos. I love them while I'm watching, but they make pretty terrible reference material. Scott's Sonar Power books continue to serve long after the first read. I don't go back to the videos all that often. Maybe if the videos came with a searchable compendium of info so we could easily find sections of interest it would be better. I often remember seeing something cool that would help me. Say... Wasn't the Craig Anderton who showed how to use Audio Snap to split a drum section into clips and then nudge them into a random order with snap on to get some crazy fill? Where was that? What video was that in? duh... :-)

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Re: The best purchase that I've ever made to improve my mixing with Sonar 2014/04/18 17:35:01 (permalink)
I've gotten Scott Garrigus' Sonar Power books since I got Sonar 3 (when was that?! LOL). I read it through and keep it handy to refer to it, but I still find seeing someone use this that or whatever, triggers other parts of my learning. A healthy dose of both covers it for me, and I think I have purchased a dozen of the videos from the Cakewalk store (X1, X2 and X3 plus Craig's, plus various softsynths). Whenever I get a little lost, I go watch one. The best part is learning stuff I wasn't "looking for".
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Re: The best purchase that I've ever made to improve my mixing with Sonar 2014/04/18 17:51:38 (permalink)
@ gswitz... I'm not that much of a fan of Scott's, books but we all have our preferred learning styles.
May I suggest the concept of making a chronological text doc. That helps you reference and locate, or as you put it (searchable compendium).
I have a word doc for every video I own and it grow and changes every time I watch a video.
This might sound like a lot of work but it not. I just list enter time, subject and short notes if required.

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Re: The best purchase that I've ever made to improve my mixing with Sonar 2014/04/18 18:13:54 (permalink)
Thanks Geoff (gswitz) and Michael (pentimentosound)! I appreciate the support very much.
 
By the way, I'll be launching my own video channel (and various series titles) later this year.
Keep an eye on my main web site: http://www.garrigus.com/
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Re: The best purchase that I've ever made to improve my mixing with Sonar 2014/04/18 18:23:09 (permalink)
+1 for Bent's suggestion. I too have a word document that I list all the tips and tricks and the time in the video they appear. Watching someone seems to trigger a better memory response in me than reading. I did enjoy Scott's book (I have X1), it is very well written and logically thought through.

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Re: The best purchase that I've ever made to improve my mixing with Sonar 2014/04/18 18:40:44 (permalink)
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Thanks Geoff (gswitz) and Michael (pentimentosound)! I appreciate the support very much.
 
By the way, I'll be launching my own video channel (and various series titles) later this year.
Keep an eye on my main web site: http://www.garrigus.com/
And sign up free to the DigiFreq music recording newsletter to stay informed: http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/subscribe.asp
 
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 Hey Scott
 
I've been signed up for your digifreg newsletter since I got Sonar 7 Power but I only very rarely see an issue come through my email. How often do you release them?
 
Cheers
 
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Re: The best purchase that I've ever made to improve my mixing with Sonar 2014/04/18 19:08:46 (permalink)
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Hey Scott
I've been signed up for your digifreg newsletter since I got Sonar 7 Power but I only very rarely see an issue come through my email. How often do you release them?
Cheers
Mark



Hey Mark... it's supposed to be monthly, but unfortunately, I usually don't have enough time to do it that often. I'll be sending out a new issue soon, but in the meantime, you can access back issues at:
http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/issues.asp
 
And I do update the main site often: http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/
And there's usually new messages on the forums daily: http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/discuss/
 
Thanks!
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Re: The best purchase that I've ever made to improve my mixing with Sonar 2014/04/18 19:57:00 (permalink)
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Hey Scott
I've been signed up for your digifreg newsletter since I got Sonar 7 Power but I only very rarely see an issue come through my email. How often do you release them?
Cheers
Mark



Hey Mark... it's supposed to be monthly, but unfortunately, I usually don't have enough time to do it that often. I'll be sending out a new issue soon, but in the meantime, you can access back issues at:
http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/issues.asp
 
And I do update the main site often: http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/
And there's usually new messages on the forums daily: http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/discuss/
 
Thanks!
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Cool, thanks Scott......and apologies for hijacking the thread :-)
 

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Re: The best purchase that I've ever made to improve my mixing with Sonar 2014/04/19 01:58:43 (permalink)
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Re: The best purchase that I've ever made to improve my mixing with Sonar 2014/04/19 09:41:21 (permalink)
I got Sonar Power too and it is great for quick references. What a great detailed guide. After watching all the mixing videos and the workshop videos I wanted to try some of the things in the videos. Most of my music is instrumental. I wanted some sample projects by good artist to mix so I could learn and experiment.
 
That is when I found the Cambridge Library. Just preview a song clip and download something to work with. The beauty of this is that it got me away from my style of writing and I got to experiment with all kinds of situations I would not normally encounter doing my own music. here is a link.
 
http://www.cambridge-mt.com/ms-mtk.htm 
 
This is a great resource for mixing information too. I found this to be just as valuable as the videos. it gave me experience and allowed me to experiment. It cost nothing at all to download a song to practice your mixing abilities. There is music in just about every style to mix. Just expand the compressed file and import inside of Sonar. I was able to try a lot of the tricks I learned in those videos on this music.
 
 

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Re: The best purchase that I've ever made to improve my mixing with Sonar 2014/04/19 09:59:34 (permalink)
Thanks Wayne and Marcus! I appreciate it.
 
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Re: The best purchase that I've ever made to improve my mixing with Sonar 2014/04/19 13:21:50 (permalink)
I really enjoyed and recommend the Groove 3 class on orchestration.  They use Logic but you can use the same idea to build a really solid orchestration template with SONAR.  Dim Pro has the included samples and midi controls to do basic switching  between long and short bow strings and smooth and percussive woodwinds.  I've had so much fun with it I bought a sample engine/library (Doh!). 
 
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Re: The best purchase that I've ever made to improve my mixing with Sonar 2014/04/19 14:59:54 (permalink)
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+1 for Bent's suggestion. I too have a word document that I list all the tips and tricks and the time in the video they appear.




FWIW, I broke the Advanced Workshop videos down into chapters, each one dealing with a particular topic. There are also PDF "indexes" for each one that describe the techniques being covered.
 
As to video vs. print, they both have their uses. Print is great for reference, videos are great for giving "aha!" moments where something suddenly becomes clear because you can see a technique in context, as well as hear the results.
 

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Re: The best purchase that I've ever made to improve my mixing with Sonar 2014/04/19 15:11:50 (permalink)
I'm sitting here watching one of the Advanced Workshop videos right now ….
The chapter Imaging for Mastering has been super helpful ….I keep going back to that one ….
I honestly didn't know how to do that sort of thing …like many things that are in the video
thank you ...
anyway , I noticed the Quick Time player shows a chapters menu to the right of the timeline 
 
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Re: The best purchase that I've ever made to improve my mixing with Sonar 2014/04/23 08:50:18 (permalink)
Hey All, 
 
Just catching up with this thread now. Thanks for all the kind kudos and support. As far as more Sonar videos, there likely will be some before the end of the year. 
 
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Re: The best purchase that I've ever made to improve my mixing with Sonar 2014/04/23 09:03:20 (permalink)
Great news, Eli.
 
I will be keeping an eye out for new SONAR related videos by you!
 
Please, let us know when they are available?


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Re: The best purchase that I've ever made to improve my mixing with Sonar 2014/04/23 10:12:03 (permalink)
We have two new videos tutorials coming out in the next few weeks. In fact, one might be available for sale today.
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Re: The best purchase that I've ever made to improve my mixing with Sonar 2014/04/23 11:02:35 (permalink)
Sounds interesting. What are the topics of the 2 new videos/tutorials?


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Re: The best purchase that I've ever made to improve my mixing with Sonar 2014/04/23 11:36:20 (permalink)
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Sounds interesting. What are the topics of the 2 new videos/tutorials?




Well the first one is here today. It's the SONAR X3 Advanced Workshop: Virtual Instruments Revealed, which was written by Karl Rose. It's nearly 5 hours long. There is an intro offer on it through April 30th:
 
www.store.cakewalk.com/default.asp?sku=10-X3AW1.00-20E
 
The next video will be 2 hour tutorial devoted exclusively to using Melodyne with SONAR X3. That will be coming out early May.
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Re: The best purchase that I've ever made to improve my mixing with Sonar 2014/04/23 20:15:21 (permalink)
Those are two good topics. Can you say who will be narrating the Melodyne tutorial/s?
 
Karl Rose is good and we're lucky to have him doing things for the SONAR community.
 
Still, with me being American, it's good to hear long session tutorials narrated by someone with a North American accent. Can't Cakewalk get Eli Kranzberg to do more tutorials/videos? He's extremely good and has a pleasant North American sounding voice.
 
Thanks for the info you've already given, though.
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Re: The best purchase that I've ever made to improve my mixing with Sonar 2014/04/23 21:06:59 (permalink)
Thank you for sharing this Andrew! I purchased the new X3 instructional video and the others from the Cake store that I didn't have. There is a TON of information in all of these great videos. Now I just need to take a few months and watch them all over and over so I can get the info drilled into my grey matter.

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Re: The best purchase that I've ever made to improve my mixing with Sonar 2014/04/24 00:05:04 (permalink)
SWA used o be done by a Scot, I remember the fuss that caused.
 
Having spent hours and hours listening to Eli's Groove3 work, I'd rather a different voice, and with it a slightly different approach.
 
I listened to Pensado's place with Mike Dean yesterday, and needed subs, so not him 
 

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