Any advantage using the drum pane in PRV?

By default notes show in the PRV Note pane. Notes will only be display in the Note or Drum Grid pane, not both. Drum maps cause notes to display in the Drum Grid pane. Notes in the drum pane do not show duration. Instead every note use the same note icon.

It's easier for me to explain it using screenshots but unfortunately I'm not at home now. I'll do it tonight unless someone explains it before then. I also don't use the icon. Not for hihats but for the snare roll :-)

Wow, this will be very helpful for me, thank you...I use several plug-ins that use keyswitches (Cinematic Strings has 8 for articulations) and they are so low in the PRV they can be a bit of a pain to work with.
Is it okay to PM you if I need help whenever I get around to setting this up?
Thanks again,
Randy
 
 

Jonesey-yessir, I realize that the triggers aren't cut off by having a shorter duration...like I said it is just a representation in the PRV that helped me to navigate a little better...I will take time to learn more about drum mapping.
Jlien- what do the different colored clips in track 16 (trumpet sec) represent?
Also, in track 17...how do you get that to display...assuming MW stands for mod wheel and is showing graphics for a CC?
Thanks guys,
Randy
 

The colored clips are all 'linked' clips, meaning the clips with the same background color are linked so that if you edit one of the clips the edit also applies to the other clips of the same color. That's just what I do for convenience when I work with MIDI clips when I'm in the songwriting stage.

As for the clip in the mod wheel track, it's just a clip with a white background color (not inline PRV) so the controller data showing up in the clip is default behavior, I think.

I tend to make the length of all note events (except for snare roll, reverse cymbal, etc.) in the Drum pane 120 tick-long (30 ticks would make it difficult for me to grab the event) but your method of making open hihats longer for a visual representation reason seems helpful because I often wonder which notes are hihats when I want to change their velocity etc., so thank you for mentioning it.

Btw, one thing you SHOULDN'T do in the Drum grid pane is hit Ctrl+A believing it will select all note events in the track. What it actually does is select all note events of ALL TRACKS (it's a bug and has been confirmed by CW).

Hope that helps

(You can PM me, of course :-) )

brundlefly

Kev999
 What you are saying is correct and certainly applies to cymbals and mosts drum samples.  Except that it does not apply for open hi-hats, where you need to set the duration.

Open hat samples are usually one-shots just like any other drum sample. They're stopped not by Note Off but by Note On of a note number that's part of a "choke group" defined in the synth programming, usually triggering a closed/pedal hat sample at the same time.

Mine are always triggered by note-off.  Is there any advantage to using other methods?

brundlefly
I think you're mistaken, unless maybe you're programming your own drums in SFZ files and not using choke groups...? I don't know of any major drum synths that use note off to close the hi hat.

I'm using Battery 3. I believe it's possible to set up choke groups, but I have never tried it. I don't use a controller for drums. I draw the beats in PRV. I would hate not to be able to see open high-hat durations.

brundlefly
Ah, you got me there; I've never tried Battery. Pretty unusual, though.

Are you saying that other drum software doesn't work this way?  If that's the case then I'm glad that I chose Battery.

Jlien X

Kev999

brundlefly
...Pretty unusual...

Are you saying that other drum software doesn't work this way?...

Most of other drum VSTs or drum patches in synths don't work that way. Are you sure even acoustic drum kits work that way in Battery? ... Can't a keyboard controller's bender lever (modulation) control the articulation of the hihat (from closed to open, and vice versa) in Battery?

Yes, note-off works for acoustic kit hi-hats in Battery. Like I said earlier, there may be other ways of closing a hi-hat, but I've never bothered to explore them, so I am not the best person to answer your question about using a controller lever.

Apologies to the OP for taking this thread off on a tangent.