Kontakt Scarbee Pre Bass slightly out of intonation ?

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2014/04/20 22:10:53 (permalink)

Kontakt Scarbee Pre Bass slightly out of intonation ?

I did a few projects with the Scarbee Pre Bass and when listen to it via headphones it sounded a little out of intonation compared to other instrumentation. Some notes are fine while some are not. Switched to Scarbee MM Bass immediately fix this. I've been using mostly MM Bass, till few days ago, when I use the Pre Bass. Same issue.
 
Anyone experiencing this ?

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    bapu
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    Re: Kontakt Scarbee Pre Bass slightly out of intonation ? 2014/04/21 10:55:04 (permalink)
    If you have melodyne, create the audio and "auto tune" the bass part.
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    Re: Kontakt Scarbee Pre Bass slightly out of intonation ? 2014/04/21 20:51:44 (permalink)
    Having to use Melodyne would be totally unacceptable to me. If you are going to sell a product like this it should be tweaked to the point of perfection. I use Scarbee Jay-Bass and do not have this problem whatsoever. I was considering adding Pre-Bass but now.................

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    Re: Kontakt Scarbee Pre Bass slightly out of intonation ? 2014/04/21 21:14:49 (permalink)
    Heck, I melodyne my own bass. Especially after a long sweaty session a string of two must just get slightly out of tune.
     
    I do understand about buying a library that "should" be correct. My bass should be correct too but as they say, spit happens.
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    Re: Kontakt Scarbee Pre Bass slightly out of intonation ? 2014/04/21 22:15:02 (permalink)
    Bass players play in tune????? Whoa...



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    Re: Kontakt Scarbee Pre Bass slightly out of intonation ? 2014/04/21 22:17:17 (permalink)
    Hey myolpal, I believe you misspelled "happens only once in a blue moon"
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    Re: Kontakt Scarbee Pre Bass slightly out of intonation ? 2014/04/21 22:17:47 (permalink)
    Next thing you know, drummers will be playing in time.
     
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    Re: Kontakt Scarbee Pre Bass slightly out of intonation ? 2014/04/21 22:54:11 (permalink)
    I've used Scarbee Pre quite a lot and have never noticed it.  Sometimes one instrument out of tune can make others sound out of tune.  Are yolu sure that Scarbee is tthe culprit?  If you know what notes sound out play then into a good tuner and check them.
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    Re: Kontakt Scarbee Pre Bass slightly out of intonation ? 2014/04/21 23:46:25 (permalink)
    Just a quick test, I've setup Pre Bass, MM Bass and also Jay Bass and send the output to a bus with a tuner vst.
     
    I'm happy to report that all the basses are in tune - and I wonder now why the Pre Bass sounded off to my ears. It's like a sleepy and uneasy feeling hearing the mix. I'll try to setup a short mix with the different basses and see what's wrong ..with my ears!

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    Re: Kontakt Scarbee Pre Bass slightly out of intonation ? 2014/04/22 00:01:07 (permalink)
    What I could best describe as fatigue has caused me to hear bass frequencies out of tune on occasions. If I keep at it, it only gets worst.
     
    Working with headphones will almost inevitably mess with my perception of bass after a while. And it's like one of those hidden image thingies - once I've heard it out of tune, it's all I can ear - the only cure is a break, and listening to something else for a while.
     
    The sensation is quite weird actually, because your reference keeps drifting - almost like being dizzy or feeling seasick.

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    Re: Kontakt Scarbee Pre Bass slightly out of intonation ? 2014/04/22 08:14:06 (permalink)
    Rain
    What I could best describe as fatigue has caused me to hear bass frequencies out of tune on occasions. If I keep at it, it only gets worst.
     
    Working with headphones will almost inevitably mess with my perception of bass after a while. And it's like one of those hidden image thingies - once I've heard it out of tune, it's all I can ear - the only cure is a break, and listening to something else for a while.
     
    The sensation is quite weird actually, because your reference keeps drifting - almost like being dizzy or feeling seasick.




    Happens to me too. It can be scary if I have to drive right after a long session.
     
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    Re: Kontakt Scarbee Pre Bass slightly out of intonation ? 2014/04/22 09:22:06 (permalink)
    I use Scarbee just to compose a rough idea of the bass lines for my songs. That track is almost always replaced by my Fender modified Jazz Bass which is fretless so I know that it is laughable that any instrument would play perfectly in tune for any length of time.
    I'm glad you found the problem. Ear fatigue and tinnitus are always lurking in the shadows to come out and bite us at anytime. When you're under a deadline you have to just hope for the best if the pressures on. Otherwise, the only remedy is shorter listening sessions. If at all possible, I never track, mix and master in the same day! That break also gives you some time to re-energize your enthusiasm about the project. And I try to accomplish what I need to as quickly as possible. And needless to say, at a reasonable volume level. If you find yourself reaching for the volume knob to turn it up more and more and constantly re-adjusting the EQ, that is a sure sign that ear fatigue is setting in and anything else you try to do is pretty much shooting yourself in the foot as far as your hearing is concerned. These are just a few of the things I have found that helps my hearing. Hope there is something in here that helps.
    BTW, I often wonder how many guys that own cars with 5,000 watt stereo systems are walking around constantly responding "Huh?"

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    Re: Kontakt Scarbee Pre Bass slightly out of intonation ? 2014/04/22 21:01:21 (permalink)
    Bass notes often sound out of tune when played in solo mode.. I noticed the same thing with Jay and Pre bass but once I play it back with all other instruments, it sounds fine..

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    Re: Kontakt Scarbee Pre Bass slightly out of intonation ? 2014/04/22 22:11:37 (permalink)
    Thanks! Felt better knowing it's a common fatigue issue.
     
    I've this experience as well (not related to out of tune, rather out of key) - I would experiment with some odd chord progressions with key changes cutting in and after jamming / recording riffs over the odd changes.. sounded right. Then next day with a fresh mind and not recalling what I've did, listening over for the first time - I'll go.. what is this ?!! it doesn't make sense. But after a few round of listening, it felt right once more.

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    Re: Kontakt Scarbee Pre Bass slightly out of intonation ? 2014/04/23 09:49:30 (permalink)
    Hey, you may have invented a new art form! "Jazz for people with tired ears!" LOL

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