My first song post :)

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2014/04/21 04:17:43 (permalink)

My first song post :)

http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=12763507
 
It's a short 1 min tune, supposed to enter into a contest, but pulled out due to the terms and conditions. Done with Session Horns, Scarbee MM Bass, Funk Guitarist, AAS Lounge Lizard and BFD3. Some snare layering using Sonar SI-Drum and Dim Pro (a quick way to add a few crash).
 
Do comment on the mix. Do you think the bass is too loud ? ..I do like it to sound louder here, tried to mix it softer but I can't hear some notes clearly.
 
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    dpronk1959
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    Re: My first song post :) 2014/04/21 04:32:14 (permalink)
    Sounds great! Nice groove! My kind o' music..:)
     

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    Re: My first song post :) 2014/04/21 04:55:22 (permalink)
    Good vibe to it. To my ears it does need a little brightness on the bass and drums (mainly the bass drum), they sound a bit flat. the horns and gt, I dont have any probs with.
     
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    Re: My first song post :) 2014/04/21 08:40:30 (permalink)
    I too like that groove. Mix is all very up front, but maybe that's what you were trying to achieve. I felt like I was in the studio with the band.

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    Re: My first song post :) 2014/04/21 14:29:58 (permalink)
    Cool tune!
     
    I agree with Gus though, that the drums are a bit muddy and could use some sheen.  Otherwise this sounds pretty good for a first song!
     

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    Re: My first song post :) 2014/04/21 21:42:15 (permalink)
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    Sounds great! Nice groove! My kind o' music..:)

     
    Thanks dpronk, I was jamming around with the bass and a drum pattern first, so the song got started once I got some groove with the bass line.
     

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    Re: My first song post :) 2014/04/21 21:49:48 (permalink)
    gusrogers
    Good vibe to it. To my ears it does need a little brightness on the bass and drums (mainly the bass drum), they sound a bit flat. the horns and gt, I dont have any probs with.
     
    Good job.
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    Thanks Gus. I've checked my EQ and sure enough, I applied a little hi cut on both the drums stereo track and also the drums bus. Overall, the BFD3 hi hat and snare sounded a little bright and I wanted to cut it down a little, but ended up applying the EQ on the whole drums.
     
    Still learning the new BFD3 and I've got problem figuring out how to split individual tracks into Sonar tracks separately. Due to the competition deadline (which I pulled out later) I've just use the BFD3 stereo output to mix the drums. Just downloaded the BFD3 manual and gonna dig in :)
     
     

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    Re: My first song post :) 2014/04/21 21:55:29 (permalink)
    rebel007
    I too like that groove. Mix is all very up front, but maybe that's what you were trying to achieve. I felt like I was in the studio with the band.




    Thanks Rebel. I just pan the guitar a little left, keys a little right. I wasn't aiming on a specific mix scenario. I suppose the Session Horns gives that impression, using the smart voice split ?
     
    I actually pick up the tips from Sharke on this thread :
     
    http://forum.cakewalk.com...-problem-m3026253.aspx

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    Re: My first song post :) 2014/04/21 22:01:24 (permalink)
    stevec
    Cool tune!
     
    I agree with Gus though, that the drums are a bit muddy and could use some sheen.  Otherwise this sounds pretty good for a first song!

     
    Thanks SteveC. Yeap.. found the problem with the muddy drums and learning the best way to use BFD3 - to use the internal BFD3 effects or to split all BFD3 tracks out into separate Sonar tracks for further processing.
     
    This is not my first song, but rather first post to the song section :)
     
    Been applying great tips I've learned from the forum on my other previous tunes. I'll post my older tunes more once I've polished up the mixing too.

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    Re: My first song post :) 2014/04/21 22:21:34 (permalink)
    At least the bass is not out of tune.
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    Re: My first song post :) 2014/04/21 22:33:15 (permalink)
    bapu
    At least the bass is not out of tune.



    Yes Bapu :) noticeable difference switching from Scarbee Pre Bass to MM Bass.
     
    On my spare time, I'll do a comparison using Melodyne and find out if Pre Bass really is a little out of intonation or it's just my ears.

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    Re: My first song post :) 2014/04/21 23:36:57 (permalink)
    I like the groove! I think you should add a little sparkle to the drums with a little Pro Channel EQ. I also notice a dramatic lack of collaboration with bayoubill on the funk guitar parts! My feeling aren't hurt. My feelings aren't hurt at all! 

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    Re: My first song post :) 2014/04/22 00:24:45 (permalink)
    bayoubill
    I like the groove! I think you should add a little sparkle to the drums with a little Pro Channel EQ. I also notice a dramatic lack of collaboration with bayoubill on the funk guitar parts! My feeling aren't hurt. My feelings aren't hurt at all! 




    Thanks Bayoubill ! aww.. I'll post an invite for my next one ok ? :)

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    Re: My first song post :) 2014/04/22 03:08:42 (permalink)
    Fun to listen to.  Sounded good to me.

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    Re: My first song post :) 2014/04/22 17:14:24 (permalink)
    Congrats on your first song post Albert.  I like the tune with the bass mixed loud, it fits the style to my ears.  Nice job.  The initial drum sounded a little muffled but I suspect that was what you intended and if not, it isn't anything that draws away from the tune.  Nice job, I enjoyed and the mix sounded good to me.
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    Re: My first song post :) 2014/04/22 22:23:45 (permalink)
    @evadianepug
    Thanks Warren. Glad you liked it.
     
    @CreatingNoise
    Thanks Tony. I've heard some mix from my bass player friend - and the bass is often mixed louder and I do like that too. Glad you liked it too.
     
     

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    Re: My first song post :) 2014/04/22 22:56:01 (permalink)
    The mix sounds OK within the context of itself, except for the brass.  At minimum you should either EQ the rhythm elements to match the brass (make them a bit brighter) OR you can roll of the treble on the brass to match everything else.  
     
    Although my taste tends towards the warmer sound these days, I think I'd opt for the first option.

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    Re: My first song post :) 2014/04/23 00:20:30 (permalink)
    Thanks Jsaras for the good advice, I'll keep in mind to match the EQ across instruments.

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    Re: My first song post :) 2014/04/23 04:49:48 (permalink)
    fun tune!!...I think the mix sounds good and not at all bass heavy...
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    Re: My first song post :) 2014/04/23 07:11:53 (permalink)
    I love this! Great film score music for cruising down the highway, Get Smart or Pink Panther type films.

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    Re: My first song post :) 2014/04/23 10:00:33 (permalink)
    Nice groove and fun tune!! The horns, bass, and guitar sounds great!!!  I also agree that the drums need to be brighter/clearer. Well done Albert on your first song post.......I'd like to hear a whole lot more of your tunes. :)

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    Re: My first song post :) 2014/05/03 10:20:10 (permalink)
    Groovy.  I find the bass right where it needs to be, especially after the horns and other instruments come in.
     
     

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    Re: My first song post :) 2014/05/03 12:50:10 (permalink)
    Nice tune, I too like the groove. The kick and snare do need some presence in the upper range as others have stated.
    Fix that and it will sound awesome !

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    Re: My first song post :) 2014/05/04 19:23:07 (permalink)
    Listening on my laptop so I can't talk to the mix, but I like the groove.
     
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    Re: My first song post :) 2014/05/06 13:49:07 (permalink)
    Thank you all for the comments and encouragements! 
     
    Much appreciated.

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    Re: My first song post :) 2014/05/06 14:44:56 (permalink)
    Works here thanks for sharing.

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