Opinions on Cakewalk MP3 Activation?

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2014/04/22 21:04:46 (permalink)

Opinions on Cakewalk MP3 Activation?

Has anyone tried the Cakewalk MP3 Activation software at the Cakewalk store?
Is it worth it?
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    Re: Opinions on Cakewalk MP3 Activation? 2014/04/22 21:14:28 (permalink)
    It is a convenience item. The license unlocks an integrated version of LAME 3.97. It is a one-time fee unlocking all future versions of SONAR.
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    Re: Opinions on Cakewalk MP3 Activation? 2014/04/22 21:40:38 (permalink)
    As I still had Cakewalk Pro Audio 9, I already technically owned the MP3 license.  I had trouble running the activation tool on the Sonar X series, but CW tech support were excellent in sending me a new activation tool quickly.
     
    But, to be honest, I like to export my audio as a WAV file and convert it to MP3 in another product.  I have an old version of Adobe Audition that I use.  There is just something I like about a simple stereo editor for trimming up the stereo mix, putting in the fade ins/outs and then exporting as MP3.

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    Re: Opinions on Cakewalk MP3 Activation? 2014/04/22 22:33:21 (permalink)
    I just went the easy way and bought it.  It works great - it is the same one as one of the free ones out there, but as noted above, since the license is for forever - all future versions of Sonar get access to it.
     
    I think it was running at only $9.99 the last time I looked - pretty good deal, in my opinion.
     
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    Re: Opinions on Cakewalk MP3 Activation? 2014/04/22 22:54:52 (permalink)
    It saves the extra step of exporting to another programs. You can of course set it up for free but for $10 who cares.

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    Re: Opinions on Cakewalk MP3 Activation? 2014/04/23 00:04:50 (permalink)
    Whilst I haven't yet bought it, it is cheap - effectively just covering the license fee and the integration will slicken your workflow.
     
    I think it bears mentioning too - Cakewalk have obviously thought about this ...
    Rather than simply a money grab, splitting it out has obviously been considered as the fairest way to recoup the licensing fee - with a one time optional fee rather than having to load the fee onto every software product.

    All the info is over at http://mp3licensing.com/

    Probable reasons that the free/open source products 'get away with' not licensing are:
    a. Fraunhofer/Thomson choose not to enforce arguably non-commercial product.
    b. They are taking a gamble.

    Obviously, Cakewalk, as a commercial entity, can't take that risk.
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    Re: Opinions on Cakewalk MP3 Activation? 2014/04/23 00:13:40 (permalink)
    Cakewalk pays out the money for the licensing.
     
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    Re: Opinions on Cakewalk MP3 Activation? 2014/04/23 00:24:09 (permalink)
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    Cakewalk pays out the money for the licensing.
     
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    Yup ... so I was saying that's a fair way for them to pass it on. 
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    Re: Opinions on Cakewalk MP3 Activation? 2014/04/23 02:06:13 (permalink)
    audacity is free and it has a lame converter that is free as well. 

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    Re: Opinions on Cakewalk MP3 Activation? 2014/04/23 03:14:01 (permalink)
    +1 for purchasing it, for convenience sake. I bought it years ago for next to nothing, and it works automatically for each release of Sonar.

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    Re: Opinions on Cakewalk MP3 Activation? 2014/04/23 05:46:28 (permalink)
    I paid for the activation of the Cakewalk MP3 Encoder. It just makes things more convenient. It's more convenient to do the mp3 conversion from within SONAR. And at the $9.99 sale price, it's even more attractive for users to jump on that offer.
     
    But I do think the Cakewalk MP3 Encoder can use some updating.  I think it would be a great idea to update the Cakewalk MP3 Encoder to include an option to use Average Bit Rate encoding. It can also be updated to use the latest LAME release 3.99.5. I don't think there ever was an update of the Cakewalk MP3 Encoder. Updating it can't be that hard to do. Can it?
     
    As mentioned above by scook, the version of LAME used by the Cakewalk MP3 Encoder is LAME 3.97, but there was a SONAR user, jcatena, who compiled the TTSLame.dll to be updated to LAME 3.98.2. The updated dlls can be downloaded by visiting the following link: http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/1774575
     
    Now, if a SONAR user can compile the TTSLame.dll to be updated to use a newer version of Lame, most assuredly, Cakewalk can!
     
    Just voicing my opinions and sharing some thoughts, as per the title of the thread.
     


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    Re: Opinions on Cakewalk MP3 Activation? 2014/04/23 07:13:50 (permalink)
    Tom, jcantena isn't just your regular run-of-the-mill CW user. That dude is a serious programmer!!

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    Re: Opinions on Cakewalk MP3 Activation? 2014/04/23 08:24:28 (permalink)
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    audacity is free and it has a lame converter that is free as well. 

    That's why Audacitys mp3 converter is free. The licence states that it's free for non commercial use. For Cakewalk to include it they have to pay the licence.

    So unlike other companies who factor the cost in every copy of their software sold and you get charged over and over, Cakewalk charge you once if you want to have them install the de/encoder for you.

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    Re: Opinions on Cakewalk MP3 Activation? 2014/04/23 08:30:22 (permalink)
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    Tom, jcantena isn't just your regular run-of-the-mill CW user. That dude is a serious programmer!!

     
    LOL Grem! How'd you get to know his abilities as a programmer?
     
    I know he did a great job bringing us the updated TTSLame dlls, and my posts identifying him as a SONAR user aren't meant to downplay his talent as a programmer. Furthermore, I wish he would compile the TTSLame dlls again to update them with LAME 3.99.5.
     
    But, one of my main points is that Cakewalk should be able to update the TTSLame dlls to use the most recent LAME version.


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    Re: Opinions on Cakewalk MP3 Activation? 2014/04/23 09:23:52 (permalink)
    thomasabarnes
     
    my posts identifying him as a SONAR user aren't meant to downplay his talent as a programmer.



    LOL... I definitely do not want people to interpret "SONAR user" in that way.

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    Re: Opinions on Cakewalk MP3 Activation? 2014/04/23 09:39:01 (permalink)
    I use Aaron's Sonar Patch. It works great, is free, install is dead easy, and has more options for conversion than you can shake a guitar neck at. Just launch a search for Aaron's Sonar Patch.

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    Re: Opinions on Cakewalk MP3 Activation? 2014/04/23 09:42:18 (permalink)

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    Re: Opinions on Cakewalk MP3 Activation? 2014/04/23 12:15:24 (permalink)
    Tom, I hope that I didn't come off as offensive/insulting. Didn't mean it that way.

    I remember a Jose Cantena back in the Pro Audio days that made a program that could tell you how many trks of audio you could record and playback at the same time.

    He also went to great lengths to explain the advantages of using DMA when it first came out.

    I am making an assumption that jcantena is that same person.

    I happen to agree with you that it shouldn't be that hard to update the encoder that's included with X3.

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    Re: Opinions on Cakewalk MP3 Activation? 2014/04/23 14:10:29 (permalink)
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    Tom, I hope that I didn't come off as offensive/insulting. Didn't mean it that way.



    Hi Grem:
     
    No, you didn't come off to sound offense/insulting. Your post was funny and entertaining.
     
    I just want to be sure I'm not misunderstood, as I think jcatena is talented, as well, and a really nice guy.
     
    He's probably the same Jose Catena you're thinking of. One thing that's certain is that we (the SONAR community) certainly have benefited from his programming skills through his updated TTSLame dlls.


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    Re: Opinions on Cakewalk MP3 Activation? 2014/04/23 16:48:42 (permalink)
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    Hi Grem:
     
    No, you didn't come off to sound offense/insulting. Your post was funny and entertaining.
     



    Great!. That's what I was going for!! : )

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    Re: Opinions on Cakewalk MP3 Activation? 2014/04/23 19:57:58 (permalink)
    What do the later builds of LAME do?  Is there any real-world benefit in CW updating from LAME 3.97 to 3.99.5?

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    Re: Opinions on Cakewalk MP3 Activation? 2014/04/23 20:13:25 (permalink)
    Bug fixes. One that shows up occasionally here is a problem with VBR encoded files misreporting their run length.
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    Re: Opinions on Cakewalk MP3 Activation? 2014/04/23 21:27:07 (permalink)
    The LAME updates provide lot's of bug fixes, as scook points out, but also they include usability enhancements and features that affect quality and speed of encoding. You can see what each update addresses by using the following link. Pay special attention to the features and fixes colored in red.
     
    That VBR problem was fixed after 3.97. And there's a significant quality enhancement coming with the release of 3.100.
     
    http://lame.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/lame/lame/doc/html/history.html?revision=HEAD
     
    Generally speaking, bug fixes and feature enhancements are desirable just as they are when users want SONAR updates.


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    Re: Opinions on Cakewalk MP3 Activation? 2014/06/07 19:37:26 (permalink)
    the cakewalk version for some reason produces MP3 that my Boss micro BR does not like.  (the MP3 file works on the computer and mobile phone, but not on the micro br).  I tried various options, disabled VBR, different bit rates, etc.
     
    but the current lame, version 3.99.5 (as an external encoder) produces MP3 that plays on the Boss.
     
    I know there are issues with the Boss (google search will highlight this), so this is not entirely the fault of the Cakewalk version of MP3 encoder.
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    Re: Opinions on Cakewalk MP3 Activation? 2014/06/10 18:49:10 (permalink)
    Is this something that comes with X3? I'm already able to export to MP3 and the quality is good.

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    Re: Opinions on Cakewalk MP3 Activation? 2014/06/10 19:05:59 (permalink)
    Yes, sort of.
    All Cakewalk DAW programs come with a 30 day demo. To use it after that, you have to pay a nominal fee. This is to cover the licensing fee that Cakewalk pays. You don't have to use it, but it allows you to export directly from X3 to MP3.

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    Re: Opinions on Cakewalk MP3 Activation? 2014/06/11 05:21:15 (permalink)
    I had used audacity's mp3 converter but disliked the sound quality. I felt that there were some distortion in it. I paid for CW's mp3 converter and has been happy with it. Fast and easy, short and sweet. 

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