Jae
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Need to make customized beats.
I just bought Sonar X3 & I really need to learn how to create my own customized drum track beats. Does anybody have any links on how to do that.
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Re: Need to make customized beats.
March 04, 14 10:28 PM
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Try using the step sequencer. You have to learn to create the beats by yourself but using the step sequencer will help you along the way.
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Kalle Rantaaho
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Re: Need to make customized beats.
March 05, 14 0:52 PM
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Welcome to te forum! Take any beat and customize it in Piano Roll. Or record your own beats with a MIDI keyboard, or by drawing them in the PRV or using the Step Sequencer. You do know how to use the drum VSTs?
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Re: Need to make customized beats.
March 05, 14 10:47 AM
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Re: Need to make customized beats.
March 05, 14 1:43 PM
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The easiest way for me to create drum beats was by using a MIDI controller like the V-drums. But to each their own as what is easy for me not be easy for you.
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Re: Need to make customized beats.
March 05, 14 4:58 PM
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It may help if we know the style of drum track you are trying to make. The way you would go about creating drum tracks for Metal solo,a southern rap style trap beat and a UK style Drum and Bass are very different.
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March 05, 14 6:24 PM
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Jae
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Re: Need to make customized beats.
March 05, 14 8:22 PM
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Dubdisciple: I would like to make a metal beat. Something easy to start off with.
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Kalle Rantaaho
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Re: Need to make customized beats.
March 06, 14 0:43 PM
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Your opening post leaves so much question marks howering. Are you familiar with using drum VSTs which means studying the basic use of SONAR? If you are, what prevents you from doing your own beats, i.e. what is the specific question? Just "tell me how to make metal drum beats" sounds like, "please, copy paste all the drum VST and SONAR manuals and help files for me".
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Re: Need to make customized beats.
March 06, 14 8:53 AM
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The best suggestion is to listen to songs that are in the style you want to create and identify what is going on with the drums. Figure out what is going on with the kick and then program it into the step sequencer or PRV. Figure out what is going on with the snare, program it into the step sequencer. Same for hi-hat, toms, cymbals, etc. Often times if I am try to emulate a certain style, I have iTunes running and I listen very carefully to a song (often over and over again, rewinding specific parts) to ascertain the drum pattern. I do the same for bass if I find a rhythm pattern I like. its a lot of work. Unless you just want to use canned loops from the internet or one of the drum sequencer add-on packs, you're going to have to spend the time and effort to understand how drums are played to get a realistic sounding drum track.
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Re: Need to make customized beats.
March 06, 14 9:06 AM
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If you are not familiar with drum parts then I would suggest buying some MIDI drum grooves from GrooveMonkee: http://www.groovemonkee.com/en/They are on sale now and are a no-brainer IMHO. If you do know about drum parts then I would suggest purchasing a drum pad controller like the Akai MPD 18: http://www.akaipro.com/product/mpd18I hope this helps and good luck.
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Kalle Rantaaho
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Re: Need to make customized beats.
March 06, 14 9:49 AM
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dwardzala Figure out what is going on with the kick and then program it into the step sequencer or PRV. Figure out what is going on with the snare, program it into the step sequencer. Same for hi-hat, toms, cymbals, etc.
I'm still trying to find out if the OP can use SONAR at all and the drum (and other) VSTs. He hasn't given us any clue of where he's at, what he has tried, and what is it that keeps him from creating his own drum beats. Does he not know how to accomplish it in SONAR, or does he not know anything about composing drum parts or what?
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Re: Need to make customized beats.
March 06, 14 12:02 AM
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Who knows Kalle. His question is so broad. If he doesn't know anything, than he is in for a long long long road ahead as it can take him years to understand music theory ,the sonar program, audio engineering and everlasting else. I'm thinking he doesn't know anything as if he did, he would have a specific question. Cj
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Re: Need to make customized beats.
March 06, 14 3:51 PM
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If he's starting totally green, there's plenty of You Tube videos teaching basic rhythm and note values, and other theory. As far as a "easy metal beat", that's pretty open ended as well. There's blast beats for the thrash metal stuff, then there's all the 16th note double bass stuff. Personally if he's totally new to stuff, I'd recommend he use something like Sony Acid. It's not anywhere near as powerful as Sonar, but it's great for beginners, and people who don't know anything about music theory. After you get used to that, it's easier to step into something like Sonar. Another up and comer that's more of a real basic, beginner DAW is Stagelight from Open Labs. I think it's like 10 bucks, and you don't really have to have a lot of knowledge to create something basic. Not to take away anything from Sonar, but I think most professional DAWs like sonar are hard to approach if you don't know anything about music, or music technology. Where stuff like Acid has on screen walk through tutorials.
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Jae
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Re: Need to make customized beats.
April 26, 14 9:03 PM
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Sorry for the delay. I am green. I expect this will take at least a couple of years to get into the real hearty tech-stuff. The last recording tool I had was a digital porta studio. I bought this software for a hundred bucks so I thought I was lowering the bar as far as DAW's so you can imagine how overwhelmed i was when I first opened it up. Having posted a few threads I can already tell this is a different language.
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Re: Need to make customized beats.
April 26, 14 9:06 PM
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this is the jist of it my friend in a nut shell. this is in sonar, in the PRV, how to create beats, its not that hard but its not that easy either, this vid makes it look easy though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruAnAPR6-hQ
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