ASIO/MME Problems

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2014/04/25 04:22:11 (permalink)

ASIO/MME Problems

Been using MME and then ASIO on Music Creator 6 through a Scarlett 2i2 on my desktop for a long time with no problem.  All of the sudden, MME is nothing but a garbled mess on playback or record.  ASIO is ok on playback, and almost ok on record, except there's static whenever I clip, even for a second.  Any kind of latency change automatically crashes Music Creator.  I seem to be ok using WDM, but there's a delay whenever I hit a button, which I could probably live with, but I wouldn't mind getting the ASIO back, that one always seemed to work pretty well.  Upgraded to Creator 6 Touch, same problems.  Different mics, no difference.  Swapped out cables, no difference.  Swapped out USB ports for the Scarlett, no difference.
 
To make things more annoying, this is only happening on my desktop (specs in the signature).  Recorded on my laptop, which also has Music Creator 6 Touch, and also through the Scarlett, no problems (the laptop is a Toshiba Win7 64-bit/i3/4 gig memory).  I think the only new thing I did to the desktop was upgrade realplayer?  Seems strange that would be the culprit.  Did the same thing on the Toshiba too, so it would seem that would not be the problem.  Maybe somebody else has other ideas.

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    ajb
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    Re: ASIO/MME Problems 2014/04/25 12:42:10 (permalink)
    Ok, so here's an update.  Made ASIO completely work again by changing bit rate in Playback and Recording Settings under Advanced to 24-bit instead of the default 16-bit.  Checked out MME and WDM to see if that fixed the problem there...but no luck.  MME is still just a garbled mess, and actually, doing anything in WDM now with lower latency kills the audio engine, on any higher latency it crashes Music Creator.  I guess thank goodness I got ASIO back, that's what I at least wanted, but I'm still finding it strange that everything else is this bad on my desktop (the more advanced computer), but everything works completely fine on the laptop (not so advanced).  I'm thinking there's a Cakewalk/something else conflict somewhere, I just can't find it.  Well, at least things are better....
     
    Oh yes, and I forgot to mention in the first post...recorded a quick clip through Audacity with no problems either, and all other audio I could think about testing through the Scarlett came out fine as well, why I'm thinking it's a Cakewalk/something else conflict as well.

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    Re: ASIO/MME Problems 2014/04/25 12:54:11 (permalink)
    ASIO is the only driver that works on my laptop and I use ASIO on my desktop as well.
     
    the sample rates should be 44.1khz and the bit depth 24.   Life should be good at that standard.

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    Re: ASIO/MME Problems 2014/04/25 13:50:46 (permalink)
    With WDM drivers you have to do the wave profile when you switch drivers, or perhaps check it.
     
    Other than deleting in Device Manager your Scarlett and video card, and finding out if Window 7 is keeping old drivers which it will install on restart of the computer again (after uninstalling the unit and the drivers by right clicking and choosing that menu item on each unit, and finally getting down to to basic Standard VGA and one driver for your sound card in the end by deleting and uninstalling the unit and drivers each time and restarting the computer until you get down to Windows 7 not having any old drivers and installing the Standard VGA drivers for video, and then installing the current driver you have for each - the video and sound device, then the only other way to tell is with dplat program and a Microsoft program called "Verify" that has been in every Windows OS since Windows 2000.
     
    http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml
     
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/244617
     
    unless not doing all of that and checking memory with another program, to make sure your computer is running with drivers that are the latest - even in the BIOS where the manufacturer may have updated drivers for your particular computer.
     
    Otherwise, if you think that you have not those problems then getting the sound card set with wave profiler in Music Creator Touch to check and having enough buffers in that program for read and writing to harddisk by setting those up higher perhaps so dropouts do not occur, then that is all that can be done - checking out your computer and defragging the harddisk and the disk cleanup in Windows 7 and making sure everything is in the computer running is okay driver-wise and programs installed correctly.
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    Re: ASIO/MME Problems 2014/04/25 18:40:04 (permalink)
    Interesting hacker...so I'm not the only one.  Also thanks for the response spacealf.  I think I'm probably not going to worry about this too much anymore.  ASIO now works again, which for what I've got running, is probably the best way to go anyway.  Probably do need to go through a spring cleanup of the computer anyway.  And of course, get back to recording, can't get into obsessing too much.  If it works....

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    Re: ASIO/MME Problems 2014/04/28 11:16:39 (permalink)
    MME is the slowest protocol and will result in problems with lower buffers quicker than WDM or ASIO.
     
    ASIO uses a completely different path than MME or WDM and can use lower buffers with fewer issues.

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