export to MP3 (using cakewalk's encoder) - Catastrophic Failure

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May 28, 14 4:42 AM (permalink)

export to MP3 (using cakewalk's encoder) - Catastrophic Failure

It used to work fine but now when I try to export the mix to MP3 I get the following error message:
 
"An internal error occurred while processing the mix down. The operation was unsuccessful.
Catastrophic failure"
 
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    Re: export to MP3 (using cakewalk's encoder) - Catastrophic Failure May 28, 14 8:15 AM (permalink)
    export to wave and use an external program to make the mp3. i use sound forge, i believe that the lame encoder is free.

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    Re: export to MP3 (using cakewalk's encoder) - Catastrophic Failure May 28, 14 9:24 AM (permalink)
    That is how I always did it - expoerto to wave and then sound forge to final edit and export to mp3.
    But a few months ago I bought the encoder from cakewalk to be able to save time when I need to send mp3's to clients....


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    Re: export to MP3 (using cakewalk's encoder) - Catastrophic Failure May 28, 14 10:53 AM (permalink)
    I think you'll need to contact tech support as this is not a common occurrence. You said you bought the encoder several months ago. Did it work at any point and stop working, or did it never work? Also, you can set up Sonar to use an external encoder like the LAME encoder while you sort this issue out.

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    Re: export to MP3 (using cakewalk's encoder) - Catastrophic Failure May 28, 14 11:11 AM (permalink)
    djoni
    That is how I always did it - expoerto to wave and then sound forge to final edit and export to mp3.
    But a few months ago I bought the encoder from cakewalk to be able to save time when I need to send mp3's to clients....


    Hi,sorry to hear this....i nave bought the encoder licence many years ago and works perfectly in all Sonar's versions.
    Sounds like a os registry error,you can try to unistall the encoder,manually clean the with regedit and reinstall the encoder.Good luck

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    Re: export to MP3 (using cakewalk's encoder) - Catastrophic Failure May 28, 14 11:16 AM (permalink)
    I've never been able to use Cake's encoder without problems. Works sometimes, not others, on some versions, not others. Search the forum for Aarons Sonar MP3 patch. I've been using it now since X2 and it does the job well. Simple and free. Cheers.

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    Re: export to MP3 (using cakewalk's encoder) - Catastrophic Failure May 28, 14 1:12 PM (permalink)
    I recently purchased the MP3 Encoder from Cakewalk and it works perfectly?

    Thanks,
     
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    Re: export to MP3 (using cakewalk's encoder) - Catastrophic Failure May 28, 14 4:53 PM (permalink)
    I have never had any issues with Cake's MP3.  Bought with Sonar X1, migrated to X2 and now X3.  All works fine...Must be something on your machine causing issues...I agree contact tech support.

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    Re: export to MP3 (using cakewalk's encoder) - Catastrophic Failure May 28, 14 6:33 PM (permalink)
    Perhaps you might want to install it again, or call tech support.
     
    I have used it for years, with no problems.
     
    And, as noted above, until you get it resolved, you can either export to wave and convert outside of Sonar, or you could configure another encoded to work from within Sonar.
     
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    Re: export to MP3 (using cakewalk's encoder) - Catastrophic Failure May 29, 14 5:07 AM (permalink)
    Slightly OT, I've always found it baffling that something as basic as exporting to mp3 is considered an "extra" in what is supposed to be a high end DAW. When you consider the things you can do it's pretty lame to have to jump through hoops or pay extra to be able to do this.
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    Re: export to MP3 (using cakewalk's encoder) - Catastrophic Failure May 29, 14 6:14 AM (permalink)
    paulo
    Slightly OT, I've always found it baffling that something as basic as exporting to mp3 is considered an "extra" in what is supposed to be a high end DAW. When you consider the things you can do it's pretty lame to have to jump through hoops or pay extra to be able to do this.




    In the end it's a question of money, of course. Even though Lame is free, it doesn't mean CW can attach it to SONAR without a charge. So, they've decided to leave the decision to the customer, whether to pay for it in SONAR or get it free from the vendor.
     
    To the OP: Just to confirm, is there anything different in the projects that the encoder could handle compared to the ones giving the error message? Melodyne clips unbounced, V-Vocal, anything? Major updates, new VSTs?

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    Re: export to MP3 (using cakewalk's encoder) - Catastrophic Failure May 29, 14 6:43 AM (permalink)
    Thumbs up on Aaron's Sonar Patch. I started using it a couple years ago and it works like a charm.

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    Re: export to MP3 (using cakewalk's encoder) - Catastrophic Failure May 29, 14 6:48 AM (permalink)
    it works in other projects.
    this error only happens in these 2 projects I was working yesterday.
    will investigate what may be causing this...there is no melodyne involved...only one uad-2 plug, PC, and waves L2...and only two tracks...


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    Re: export to MP3 (using cakewalk's encoder) - Catastrophic Failure May 29, 14 7:57 AM (permalink)
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    paulo
    Slightly OT, I've always found it baffling that something as basic as exporting to mp3 is considered an "extra" in what is supposed to be a high end DAW. When you consider the things you can do it's pretty lame to have to jump through hoops or pay extra to be able to do this.




    In the end it's a question of money, of course. Even though Lame is free, it doesn't mean CW can attach it to SONAR without a charge. So, they've decided to leave the decision to the customer, whether to pay for it in SONAR or get it free from the vendor.
     

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    Yes, but we're talking peanuts here in the grand scheme of things. I'd rather pay a small amount extra in the first place and have a fully functioning DAW. It's hard to believe that the minimal extra cost for this would be a deal breaker for anyone.
     
    As for the OP, if it's only two tracks you could try importing the audio into a new project and see what happens then. Would this at least establish if the problem is plug-in related or not ?
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    Re: export to MP3 (using cakewalk's encoder) - Catastrophic Failure May 29, 14 8:24 AM (permalink)
    paulo
     
    Yes, but we're talking peanuts here in the grand scheme of things. I'd rather pay a small amount extra in the first place and have a fully functioning DAW. It's hard to believe that the minimal extra cost for this would be a deal breaker for anyone.
     



    This is discussed many times, over and over.
     
    CW makes the right call and pays the owners of mp3 code for the use of it's IP.
    CW chooses to charge it's customers once to have unlimited use of it's own mp3 conversion within CW products.
     
    It's that simple.
     
    I am glad they don't add an extra charge every time I purchase a new version of Sonar.

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    Re: export to MP3 (using cakewalk's encoder) - Catastrophic Failure May 29, 14 8:31 AM (permalink)
    Grem
    paulo
     
    Yes, but we're talking peanuts here in the grand scheme of things. I'd rather pay a small amount extra in the first place and have a fully functioning DAW. It's hard to believe that the minimal extra cost for this would be a deal breaker for anyone.
     



    This is discussed many times, over and over.
     
    CW makes the right call and pays the owners of mp3 code for the use of it's IP.
    CW chooses to charge it's customers once to have unlimited use of it's own mp3 conversion within CW products.
     
    It's that simple.
     
    I am glad they don't add an extra charge every time I purchase a new version of Sonar.




    Don't want to hijack the thread so let's just agree to differ.
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    Re: export to MP3 (using cakewalk's encoder) - Catastrophic Failure May 29, 14 10:23 AM (permalink)
    Since the original issue seems to be on its way to a resolution given that there are only a couple specific projects where it doesn't work, a couple thoughts about MP3. 
     
    As noted, if Cakewalk includes the MP3 encoder, they have to absorb the costs. For one program, that's not a big deal. But it's compatible with Sonar, Music Creator, Home Studio, etc. If the encoder was included in every program going out, the license fees would add up to a lot of money for functionality that a) not everyone uses, and b) is available for free in iTunes not it's not essential for Sonar.
     
    Some users like an a la carte approach, some like everything bundled so by definition, one set of people will not like the way it's being handled but the other will. This is why "let's just agree to differ" is the only conclusion that makes any sense.
     
    On an unrelated note, if you do a lot of work with MP3 conversion on a professional basis, nothing beats the Sonnox Fraunhofer Pro-Codec plug-in. It's expensive (around $400) but it also does AAC, lossless compression, real-time audition of multiple files, surround, difference comparison (i.e., you can hear just the artifacts the MP3 generates), etc. It's overkill for most people, but it's incredibly effective and the functionality is off the hook. 

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