AGBFunkyBassman
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Transferring Projects ?
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I'm thinking of changing DAW to sonar and I'm looking at ways to transfer projects.
From what I can see it is going to be a painful process as there isnt a generic DAW file format.
OMF only exports audio (without FX as well..... tried freezing the audio tracks prior to export but no FX on tracks..... could be my inexperience)
.mid files do what they say on the tin but essentially for note data only so virtuall instruments have to be reassigned and then ...etc etc
This kind of links in with a previous post of 'When is a song finished' but my question is this
1. Is there a complete way of transferring projects between DAWS
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Kalle Rantaaho
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Re: Transferring Projects ?
2014/05/14 07:08:36
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Unfortunately there's no easy way.
I don't know what DAW you're using now, but I'm sure there's a way to freeze/bounce the tracks with effects.
If you export as Broadcast Wav, the files get a time stamp which positions them correctly in the new project (I've been told).
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Re: Transferring Projects ?
2014/05/14 10:36:15
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The ususal process, as Kalle says above, is to bounce or render each tracks w/ whatever effects you want to keep. Be sure and do it to the entire track timeline from 0 (Broadcast files are stamped w/ the absolute time). Save all the entire tracks in a separate folder. Then you can open each entire audio track in SONAR from zero and they will all line up. You can also pull in the original tracks if you decide to redo any effects w/ SONAR's (Producer has a very nice collection of effects - you don't really need anything else although most of us have some 3rd party favorites).
It is a lot of work but if you work out a system it will go pretty painless - just the time involved.
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CJaysMusic
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Re: Transferring Projects ?
2014/05/14 11:35:45
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☄ Helpfulby mettelus 2014/05/16 17:33:04
The easiest way is to use your old DAW for everything you recorded previously and your new DAW for everything you record now.
There is no way to transfer project so they keep the envelopes, effects and every other setting you have. Every DAW is different so there is no way to do it. the same goes fro every other kind of professional program, so its nothing unusual
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Re: Transferring Projects ?
2014/05/14 11:49:26
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I agree with CJ. Keep 'em both installed if you want to continue to work on older projects mixed in another DAW. For any that you are determined to rework in Sonar, there is only the long way of importing the audio and trying to recreate the mix. On the plus side, presumably you would only be doing this if you are not happy with what you have, so you wouldn't want to re-create it exactly as it was anyway, so other than time, you've nothing to lose really.
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AGBFunkyBassman
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Re: Transferring Projects ?
2014/05/15 17:00:43
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Some Good points there Paulo......
If transferring was a simple matter I might do it for my older projects but no matter which way I look at it there seems to be a fair bit of time needed to get back to a near 'Finished' situation
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AGBFunkyBassman
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Re: Transferring Projects ?
2014/05/15 17:10:34
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Also from what I've seem the OMF file format essentially just appears to be similar to doing an audio mixdown with each instrument going to a different track
Should there be any reference to any plugins used in the original in the OMF so when its loaded into another daw it can either go and find it (if installed) or tell you it's missing ?
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Re: Transferring Projects ?
2014/05/15 17:23:10
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Yah there's no universal project format between DAWs. Like, at all. OMF files will help with audio, but yup, you'd pretty much have to rebuild the project...in which case the original advice of keeping both DAWs around so you still open up old projects is the best way.
It's not dissimilar even within the same DAW. I still open some old projects in SONAR 8.5 or X3-32 bit just because that's the version the original project was created in. But new work gets created in the latest and greatest.
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Anderton
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Re: Transferring Projects ?
2014/05/15 17:29:02
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Has anyone had any luck with exporting Broadcast Wav Files and bringing them into Sonar? Or vice-versa?
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CJaysMusic
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Re: Transferring Projects ?
2014/05/16 12:28:17
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Anderton
Has anyone had any luck with exporting Broadcast Wav Files and bringing them into Sonar? Or vice-versa?
Yea, i do it allot and the project line up, just like they where in the other DAW CJ
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Anderton
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Re: Transferring Projects ?
2014/05/16 14:38:01
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Which DAW was that (you can whisper, it's okay)?
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sharke
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Re: Transferring Projects ?
2014/05/16 14:54:39
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☄ Helpfulby mettelus 2014/05/16 17:35:38
I've transferred projects from Pro Tools to Sonar and also from Sonar projects into a fresh Sonar project, and there really isn't any quick way of doing it. You just have to roll up your sleeves and buckle-to.
In the end though, I think it's an easier process than you think it's going to be. I've transferred large MIDI projects which involved recreating synths and large FX chains from scratch. Sometimes you just have to get a pen and paper and make notes. But you can save synth/FX settings as presets - it's always good to save all of your presets in the project folder as you work anyway.
As for audio and MIDI clips I just take each track in turn. Bounce all the clips of one track into a single clip and make sure to extend the start of the clip all the way to the beginning so that you can position it easily in the new project.
I've actually enjoyed doing it. It's nice to recreate a project like this and feel like you're making a fresh start. It also forces you to look at the old project in great detail, which may lead to a bit of "spring cleaning" in the process.
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Re: Transferring Projects ?
2014/05/16 16:14:59
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+1 sharke
I've taking crashed projects out of PT (yep, it happens in PT to) and rebuilt them in x3.
Psst!! This is actually the preferred method for MIDI intensive PT projects because X3 is so much faster and easier to work in for MIDI (whispers quietly)
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sharke
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Re: Transferring Projects ?
2014/05/17 01:33:40
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Featherlight
+1 sharke
I've taking crashed projects out of PT (yep, it happens in PT to) and rebuilt them in x3.
Psst!! This is actually the preferred method for MIDI intensive PT projects because X3 is so much faster and easier to work in for MIDI (whispers quietly)
Tell me about it! The main reason why I bought Sonar was because I just couldn't get anything done in Pro Tools because of endless crashes related to MIDI and VSTi's. I was even at the point where I had to host my VSTi's in Reaper and ReWire it into ProTools before I said enough is enough and simply went out and bought a better DAW.
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Larry Jones
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Re: Transferring Projects ?
2014/05/17 02:43:01
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I have transferred live tracks from Pro Tools on a Mac to Sonar -- like, 20 tracks. This involved copying the files to a portable drive (I found out Macs can't talk to NTFS formatted drives), bringing them to the home studio and importing into Sonar. And I've transferred six or eight tracks from Sonar to Sony Vegas for scoring. I didn't use Broadcast wav files in any of these moves, and everything synced up every time. You just have to make sure you transfer the entire track and then import it to zero on your timeline.
What would be the advantage of Broadcast wav?
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CJaysMusic
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Re: Transferring Projects ?
2014/05/17 10:14:14
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Anderton
Which DAW was that (you can whisper, it's okay)?
In a whispering voice: Pro tools, Logic, Cubase, Garage band, Ableton, FL Studio, Reason, Traction, Nuendo, Digital performer, Presonus one & Reaper (I think). These are the ones I know about. I'm sure there are others that I do not know about. CJ
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