Mosvalve
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The Kaotica Eyeball
Professionally record your vocals anywhere? They claim that not me. Only $200 bucks. How can you go wrong. http://kaoticaeyeball.com/
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Re: The Kaotica Eyeball
2014/05/16 06:58:32
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YIKES ....$200 for a piece of foam around your mic?
Hmmm....no....$20 might be a more reasonable price...
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Re: The Kaotica Eyeball
2014/05/16 09:45:15
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Kaotica eyeofftheball with that price
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Re: The Kaotica Eyeball
2014/05/16 10:13:03
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I've long felt that my biggest personal failing, my barrier to entrepreneurial success, is my slavish devotion to ethics. If I could only get that damn morality under control, I've got a lot of ideas for new snake oil applications.
Still, that chick is pretty hot. It might be worth $200 just to sucker her into coming in to your studio. She's gonna be a star, you can just tell.
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Re: The Kaotica Eyeball
2014/05/16 11:47:11
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besides being priced at the absurd price point, it is bad physics. It can't work!
Now I try to keep an open mind, but they were showing this at AES this past fall, so for grins I checked it out. Now there is probably no better way to evaluate something like this than a noisy trade show floor. So I gave it a listen... and it sounds awful. Turns out you really can not break the laws of physics<G>...
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Re: The Kaotica Eyeball
2014/05/16 12:20:49
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It amazes me that these kinds of things are often shown at AES. NAMM, I can see. But AES is supposedly attended by "engineers", whom you'd think would be a tough crowd. I sure wouldn't want to be the guy demonstrating magnet therapy at an AMA convention.
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Re: The Kaotica Eyeball
2014/05/16 16:19:14
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Couldn't you just use a dirty gym sock?? I mean, ifn ya wanted to. Or had one around.
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strikinglyhandsome1
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Re: The Kaotica Eyeball
2014/05/16 16:22:19
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Just nick a bearskin cap off a grenadier and that should do nicely.
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Re: The Kaotica Eyeball
2014/05/16 16:49:28
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Ayt...ere's ut ya do...
Get ye a basketball and cut a hole in the front and on the bottom,
line that suker wit some foam and put it over ye mikephone....
make sure it's sekur wit duck tape....
At'll be too hunnit dolla's....
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Re: The Kaotica Eyeball
2014/05/16 16:52:02
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I want it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No, I really don't.
But the website was kinda freaky, no? I kept clicking on the blue down arrow and images would sweep by and sometimes stop. Not always in the right location though, sort of like playing slots.
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Mosvalve
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Re: The Kaotica Eyeball
2014/05/16 17:10:54
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Can you buy foam in ball form? Just have to cut out the hole. Sell em for five bucks with a wiffle bat. After you put down that pro vocal you can play ball with your kids.
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Re: The Kaotica Eyeball
2014/05/16 18:31:36
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stevec
But the website was kinda freaky, no? I kept clicking on the blue down arrow and images would sweep by and sometimes stop. Not always in the right location though, sort of like playing slots.
Yes...I kept trying to figure out what the down arrow was supposed to do the first time because nothing happened... then the images changed...was quite strange...
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strikinglyhandsome1
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Re: The Kaotica Eyeball
2014/05/16 19:09:13
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If you play strawberry fields backwards it says 'Paul is singing into a big foam mic'
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Re: The Kaotica Eyeball
2014/05/16 19:12:38
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strikinglyhandsome1
If you play strawberry fields backwards it says 'Paul is singing into a big foam mic'
I think I watched a documentary about that....
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Re: The Kaotica Eyeball
2014/05/16 22:31:56
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strikinglyhandsome1
If you play strawberry fields backwards it says 'Paul is singing into a big foam mic'
I think I watched a documentary about that....
I wonder if walruses and egg people also use large foam balls...
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Re: The Kaotica Eyeball
2014/05/16 22:47:09
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cclarry
strikinglyhandsome1
If you play strawberry fields backwards it says 'Paul is singing into a big foam mic'
I think I watched a documentary about that....
I wonder if walruses and egg people also use large foam balls...
I am the Ballrus?
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Re: The Kaotica Eyeball
2014/05/16 22:59:14
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I wonder how many of their customers also use the finest exotic tonewoods for the volume knobs on their stereo systems.
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Re: The Kaotica Eyeball
2014/05/16 23:03:49
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mumpcake
I wonder how many of their customers also use the finest exotic tonewoods for the volume knobs on their stereo systems.
Yes, there's nothing quite like a Quilted Maple or Koa Volume Knob on your stereo to enhance the sustain of your audio and give it that extra "bite"....
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Re: The Kaotica Eyeball
2014/05/17 22:24:08
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It's all a waste of money if you don't have a cable, LP and CD demagnetizer. The effects of demagnetizing CDs are rather similar to those with LPs. I played a new recording of Bach’s Brandenburg Concerto No.3 from the CD A Passion for Baroque [no catalog number] recorded at the Cactus Pear Music Festival. After demagnetization, the highs seemed less bright and glaring, and there was more musical detail and vividness. I even subjected my favorite CD -- La Folia, with performances by Jordi Savall and associates [AliaVox AV9805] -- to the deMag treatment, since I’m very familiar with it. On the first cut, "Folia: Rodrigo Martinez," the viola da gamba sounded more realistic after treatment. Dynamics were more precise, and bass impact was noticeably stronger. Only $1800.
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Re: The Kaotica Eyeball
2014/05/17 22:49:20
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bitflipper
It's all a waste of money if you don't have a cable, LP and CD demagnetizer.
The effects of demagnetizing CDs are rather similar to those with LPs. I played a new recording of Bach’s Brandenburg Concerto No.3 from the CD A Passion for Baroque [no catalog number] recorded at the Cactus Pear Music Festival. After demagnetization, the highs seemed less bright and glaring, and there was more musical detail and vividness. I even subjected my favorite CD -- La Folia, with performances by Jordi Savall and associates [AliaVox AV9805] -- to the deMag treatment, since I’m very familiar with it. On the first cut, "Folia: Rodrigo Martinez," the viola da gamba sounded more realistic after treatment. Dynamics were more precise, and bass impact was noticeably stronger.
Only $1800.
WOW...WOW...that's all I can say... PT Barnum said it best folks....
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Re: The Kaotica Eyeball
2014/05/18 18:28:29
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It amazes me that these kinds of things are often shown at AES. NAMM, I can see. But AES is supposedly attended by "engineers", whom you'd think would be a tough crowd. I sure wouldn't want to be the guy demonstrating magnet therapy at an AMA convention. You pretty much hit it on the head! But as bad as the foam ball is, I really felt sorry for was the clown selling power cables for several hundred dollars a piece. He had a little booth set up (not on the trade show floor, even the AES has standards) and was trying to convince folks that a power cord would make their gear sound better. Actually, I have no pity whatsoever for folks taken in by snake oil salesmen... most of this stuff is still governed by the good old laws of physics. IF your power cord is presenting a significant impedance to the power source then it is possible that you can hear a difference if you replace it with a power cord that does not present a significant impedance. Possible... not guaranteed. The catch?? Hey, when I was 20 I could not understand why anyone would spend $1500 on a microphone. I thought they were snake oil. Then a studio where I worked ended up with a U-67. You could plug that into a Norelco (really obscure reference here) cassette recorder and hear the difference. So I learned not to use cost as the only figure of merit. Sometimes you do have to listen. Oh, yeah, you ALWAYS have to listen, but sometimes listening to common sense is good enough. And if I could come up with any reasonable explanation for power cords making a difference I'd probably give it the benefit of the doubt. Not so long ago I designed a prototype using the InGenius input chip from THAT. I happen to know, and respect, the designer of that chip, but I still thought there might just be a wee bit of enthusiasm in the marketing copy. Danged if it did not exceed my expectations. Proof again that sometime you just gotta listen (and in this case measure.) And heck, some of the best and the brightest have spent much of their time trying to align subjective and objective analysis... so I don't feel too bad being both cynical and curious<G>! But the foam ball????
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Re: The Kaotica Eyeball
2014/05/18 18:50:49
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Re: The Kaotica Eyeball
2014/05/18 21:24:27
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Read the article... just goes to prove you gotta use your ears! My experience/results were just about opposite the author's, I thought that the better the microphone the worse it sounded in the eyeball. And I did not feel that the reduction in background noise was worth the penalty.
But that is me... although I still think that it is a bad idea<G>!
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Re: The Kaotica Eyeball
2014/05/18 22:17:14
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I think, for $200, I could do a much better job just "isolating" the microphone...
and pocketing about $175 of that $200..but what do I know?
I could tell you that the Bud Light Platinum Beer Can I'm drinking out of is worth $10,000,000.00....
that doesn't make it so...UNLESS you believe it...=P
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Re: The Kaotica Eyeball
2014/05/18 23:01:41
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I think I want that beer can!!!!!!
And yeah, you can do a lot better with a music stand and three Sonex Squares... but please don't ask me how I know that<G>!
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Re: The Kaotica Eyeball
2014/05/18 23:04:10
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wst3
I think I want that beer can!!!!!!
And yeah, you can do a lot better with a music stand and three Sonex Squares... but please don't ask me how I know that<G>!
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Re: The Kaotica Eyeball
2014/05/19 00:27:41
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I think I read somewhere that vocals sound crisper with a more focused soundstage if you record them in the freezer. The only downside is that you'll probably need a battery powered mic. Luckily though, batteries can be recharged by leaving them next to a fireplace for a couple of hours.
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Re: The Kaotica Eyeball
2014/05/19 06:14:02
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Luckily though, batteries can be recharged by leaving them next to a fireplace for a couple of hours.
I know MY batteries are recharged sitting next to a fireplace for a few hours... 
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Re: The Kaotica Eyeball
2014/05/19 06:39:03
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I got some dehydrated water for sale if anyone's interested.
It's called Just Add Water. I ain't got no fancy website or nothin', but I don't need one, this stuff is just flyin' out the door as it is.......
Grab some while you can......only $200 for as much as you like. Send me your cash now or just your bank details and passwords and I'll help myself if that's easier.
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Re: The Kaotica Eyeball
2014/05/19 10:41:34
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sharke
I think I read somewhere that vocals sound crisper with a more focused soundstage if you record them in the freezer. The only downside is that you'll probably need a battery powered mic. Luckily though, batteries can be recharged by leaving them next to a fireplace for a couple of hours.
Makes stutter effects sound more natural, too. As for the battery-powered microphone, nah, if you're at all serious about this you'll have no second thoughts about drilling holes in your freezer for a pass-through. Cut the opening in the back of the freezer where it's out of sight, and don't tell your wife. She already thinks you're crazy. I read Per's SoundBytes article with interest, since the author is not the sort of fellow who'd B.S. you because somebody loaned him a piece of hardware. He didn't even get to keep it, AFAIK. I was quite surprised by the positive things he had to say about the product. So surprised that I'd really have to try it myself before I'd be convinced. What it's essentially attempting to do is narrow the polar pattern of the microphone to reduce extraneous noise. That's not a bad idea - it's why the SM58 is such a popular microphone. But foam is only going to do that for high frequencies, and probably not in a linear fashion. The 58 does it fairly linearly, and does it for lows and mids too. Reducing computer fan noise might be a justification. But the very modest reduction Per measured could be as easily accomplished with a piece of rigid fiberglass next to the computer. Actually, that method will get you ten times more fan noise reduction than any foam can. Unless the foam was 3 feet thick, anyway. My advice would be to get an SM58, which is half the price of the eyeball, and borrow a scrap of 703 from somebody who's done it right and applied acoustical absorption to his room.
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