Corridors
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New Hard Drive?
My hard drive failed. My tech guy said the best one to get would be a
500GB Samsung 840 EVO
Any reason that would NOT be the best for Sonar?
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Re: New Hard Drive?
2014/05/21 00:58:10
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Corridors, welcome to the forum! . . . can't see why not . . . 500 GB SSD drive, fairly deluxe, hope you've got a good audio interface to match with it ! Have you run Sonar on an SSD system drive before ? Do you use other separate drives for samples etc . . . ? In my neighbourhood, a 500 GB SSD drive is a lot to spend, and my 120 GB SSD system drive does very well for a lot less, and myself, personally, I would spend that money upgrading my audio interface.
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Re: New Hard Drive?
2014/05/21 02:25:29
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That drive is decent, I have one for my data drive on my new daw.
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Re: New Hard Drive?
2014/05/21 02:26:33
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That drive is decent, I have one for my data drive on my new daw.
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Re: New Hard Drive?
2014/05/21 07:29:27
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I haven't tried a solid state drive for data but I am using one for the OS. (and yes, for me, the OS and the data reside on different drives). The computer boots very quickly and shuts down quickly. I've not had any issues that are close to show-stoppers with the 1 TB standard eSATA drive I use for data.
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Re: New Hard Drive?
2014/05/21 07:46:33
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I have 2 EVO drives, 1 in my laptop and 1 in the desktop. They are 240GB SSD and run great. For my desktop the drive is for programs etc, while I have a 1 TB "old fashioned" SATA for samples and data. On the laptop the Samsung gets everything. I'm still a tad bit leary of using an SSD for data because I've read that excessive data transfers can shorten the drive's lifespan so keep that in mind.
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Re: New Hard Drive?
2014/05/21 08:13:33
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I bought one of the 512 GB SSD's when they first appeared, and they were around $700 or so, as I recall it. The particular one I bought failed after less than 6 months, so I ripped it out of the computer, got store credit for the return (I had an extended warranty). I then used the store credit to buy a shiny new 46" HDTV and 2 regular non-SSD SATA III 2 TB 7200 rpm drives, and some Swedish fish candy. While the SSD drives boot up faster, and access data quicker, I found I got a WAY bigger bang for the buck with the above listed gear, and the SATA III 7200 rpm drives I use are PLENTY fast enough for everything I do with Sonar. As I am disabled, I am able to spend about 10 hours a day in Sonar, or otherwise working on music activities, and I have ZERO performance bottlenecks with using the regular SATA III drives. If you have all the cables, plugins, and such that you need, then by all means pick up the SSD drive. If the above is not the case, then I suggest you consider picking up a 1 or 2 TB regular 7200 RPM SATA III drive, or even 2 of them, and then take the savings ($120-$140ish) and look at beefing up things like main memory for your computer (perhaps go from 8 GB to 16 GB, or 16 GB to 32 GB), or take advantage of some of those end of the month sales on effects or synths or sound libraries you see. If I had an extra $120-$140, I would give serious consideration to picking up East West Quantum Leap Solo Violin (currently on sale for $99), or some other synth component. Anyways - I am glad you have some choices - an SSD drive would be a nice thing to have. Balance the speed improvement against getting half as much storage for the cost, and against getting a regular SATA III drive and some extra gear or a synth for that same cash outlay (and having twice the storage). Bob Bone
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Re: New Hard Drive?
2014/05/21 10:50:32
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The EVOs are very good. I buy a lot of them at my job and put them in some servers, desktops and laptops. Bob Bone makes a valid point on the necessity of SSDs from a cost-ratio point of view, but I like SSDs in my system because they are smaller, don't generate heat, do no generate noise AND have better on average read/write times. Those models are under $300 for a 500GB right now.
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Re: New Hard Drive?
2014/05/21 12:07:23
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And I thought the whole point of them is there are no moving parts,, so one would expect they cannot break. Was interesting to hear that yours did Bob. Oh well, I can't afford them anyhow.. 1 TB Samsung 7200 drives $56 Can. I can buy 6 of them for the price of SSD.
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Re: New Hard Drive?
2014/05/21 13:19:50
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And 6 of those drives would make a crap-ton of noise.
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Re: New Hard Drive?
2014/05/22 17:00:28
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Corridors My hard drive failed. My tech guy said the best one to get would be a
500GB Samsung 840 EVO
Any reason that would NOT be the best for Sonar?
For a boot drive, a 500GB SSD would be nice. The 840 EVOs are good SSDs. If this is for an Audio HD (recording audio files), I would stick with a large/fast conventional HD. The faster conventional HDs are sustaining 150+MB/Sec. (That's easily 100 solid 24Bit/44.1k tracks of audio)
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Re: New Hard Drive?
2014/05/22 17:54:09
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I've got Sonar on a 240GB 840 EVO, quite a few vsti installed and the data on a 1TB WD Black drive...works fine.
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Re: New Hard Drive?
2014/05/22 17:59:06
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Re: New Hard Drive?
2014/05/25 22:25:37
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my last upgrade was a 240Gb SSD system drive and 2Tb SATA data drive. Best bang for the buck, IMO.
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Re: New Hard Drive?
2014/05/25 23:17:55
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Guys, May I chip in with another different question although related; Besides obvious storage issues, how does the onboard hard drive affect actual performance of Sonar? From my X3 control bar, my hard drive seems to be up to 70% full and I feel my system performance is hit and miss recently at low latencies, does this have a direct effect? Cian
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Re: New Hard Drive?
2014/05/26 00:08:42
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Right now SSD drives are great for C: drive w/ your OS and programs on it. 500 gigs should be more than enough unless you try to put a couple of large libraries on it. This is only true if you have a separate drive for audio (and video, if applicable). From what I understand, an old style drive, 7200 rpm, is the best choice for audio. If nothing else, it is a lot less expensive than a smaller SSD and, as Jim sez, fast enough for just about every project. By the time it needs replacement, SSDs should be the replacement. @
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Re: New Hard Drive?
2014/05/28 12:23:15
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i think it's common sense that SSD will be the fastest for audio (using a lot of samples like omnisphere etc) but from all that I read durability can be an issue
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Re: New Hard Drive?
2014/05/28 17:10:58
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A good SSD brand and you are just as good as your "reliable" spindle drives.
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Re: New Hard Drive?
2014/05/28 17:27:33
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If you have the money get all SSDs. But what Jim R wrote makes most sense. At this point, I figger the only reason for SSDs is to reduce noise. Disk drives are a very mature tech. Reliable, and cheap. Once the computer boots the OS disk is seldom accessed on an audio optimized box. So what! the computer boots a few seconds faster. Optomize and save the money for a bigger disk. Always can use the storage. 3 disks on my comp: 500 giga audio files 1 tera OS, and storage: backup for audio files 3 tera samples, storage: tutorials, downloaded installation files, and pictures of a few million naked women (my preference and comfortable with it)
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Re: New Hard Drive?
2014/05/28 18:43:51
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I agree SSD for OS, conventional for multitrack recording and data makes sense. Just remember, SSDs need to be backed up too.
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