Digi 002r and X3 - driver issues?

Hi

I'm new to sonar and have just closed a thread where I was experiencing a time line freeze. I assumed I was just doing something wrong but it appears that there may be an issue with the digi 002r drivers, hence the new thread.

From what I've been able to find, there are a range of possible fixes, from 'disable multicore support' all the way to 'just get a new interface'!

I'm not great with all the various driver type issues and diving deep into settings etc but I'm hoping that someone out there may be able to help me.

Any ideas guys? I was thinking of installing the newest digi drivers even though they state that they do not support the 002r. Worth a shot?

Just loaded up the 003 drivers from the digi site and it seems to run ok in WDMKS.

I only had time for a very quick check but the only problem I could see (playback only - haven't tried any recording or synth playing) was a delay of about 2 seconds before play back starts after hitting play.

Any ideas on the delay, or maybe this is just a 'feature' of my set up with those drivers?

Brightside
Just loaded up the 003 drivers from the digi site and it seems to run ok in WDMKS.

I only had time for a very quick check but the only problem I could see (playback only - haven't tried any recording or synth playing) was a delay of about 2 seconds before play back starts after hitting play.

Any ideas on the delay, or maybe this is just a 'feature' of my set up with those drivers?

The delay can be 4 things.
1. You have a pre-count for the metronome
2. You have your WDM slider settings to high
3. Your drivers are horrible for the DIGI
4. Your PC MOBO and your sound card drivers do not like each other
 
CJ

Hi - I am coming into this a bit late, but will try to help.
 
What are your settings currently set for:
 
Audio Interface: Sample Rate, ASIO Buffer Size
 
Sonar: Driver Mode, Sample Rate, Total Roundtrip Latency, Playback I/O Buffer and Recording I/O Buffer, and why not throw in the Prepare Using nnnn Milliseconds.
 
Thanks, 
 
I will take a look at the rest of the posts here in the meantime, 
 
Bob Bone
 

Prepare using is set at 250ms. Tried different values with no success.

robert_e_bone
Thanks - It is not quite clear on your ASIO audio interface ASIO Buffer Size setting - I take it your comment meant that it being 'the same' meant that it is a sample rate of 44.1 k and 1024 for a buffer size.  PLEASE correct that if I am mistaken.

Hi Bob

Your assumption was correct, the ASIO settings were 44.1 and 1024.

I set up a new project in ASIO as per your suggested figures (round trip was 13.7ms) and set up a single midi track to record. Pre-record monitoring was all ok and on hitting record, the result was as follows:

1. Monitoring was fine, it felt/sounded like a normal recording.
2. The time line stopped at approx 250ms (done the procedure 3 times).
3. Past 250ms the monitoring and metronome functioned as normal.
4. Only the first 250ms of data was recorded.
5. On playback, the 250ms worth of data sounded fine - then nothing.

I wasn't sure if it was relevant but the 250ms corresponded with the value of the midi 'prepare using' field, so I changed it to 500, then 1000 but it resulted in the same 250ms being recorded.

Another point to note is that when pressing 'apply' after making changes in Prefs results in a delay of about 20 seconds (complete with spinning windows cursor) before being returned to the track view. This only happens in ASIO, not WDM.

I've also tried this same test with the FW card drivers changed to Legacy mode as I'd read somewhere that this may have an effect but there was no joy there either.

I also tried a buffer of 64 (10ms) but got the same results as above.

So frustrating. This doesn't look like it's going to have a happy ending!

Thanks again for your help Bob.

In the sounds dialogue box, the only options were for the various digi I/O. I disabled all of them (the digi main outs had been selected when I went into the settings) and set up a project as per your post. There was no sign of any option for onboard sound.

On running a simple project, the outputs were the same as before i.e. Audio and midi start playing immediately, timeline stops after 250ms, audio continues to play as normal, midi instruments stop after a few seconds. The sound quality is all good throughout.

Switching back to WDM results in the same outputs as before i.e. 2 second delay then all audio and midi play perfectly.

It feels so close!

Apologies (especially to Bob) for not updating this thread - things have been kinda busy recently.

Anyway, having tried lots of different ideas, the problem remained, so I tried out a borrowed interface and it's worked flawlessly ever since.

I remain convinced that it's a driver issue with the digi but have resigned myself to getting a new interface.

It's been absolutely wonderful getting back into making music and, now that I've become much more familiar with Sonar, I really like it. Not mad about the midi editing but that's for another thread!

Thanks for your help Bob, I guess this thread is 'solved' to a certain extent!