Idea for Feature Request

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2014/05/29 07:47:46 (permalink)

Idea for Feature Request

Even though I have been using CAKEWALK since it was called CAKEWALK, I was wondering if the following workflow is currently possible with SONAR X series.  When you have a submix (let's say drums) that have individual audio tracks for a well mic'ed kit.  I would like to be able to get a submix Console view (automatically) of only the tracks that are routed to the buss (DRUMS buss in this example).
 
Don't know about you but scrolling through individual audio tracks in a project looking for any of the tracks that are being sent to drum buss (especially if you are using multiple VSTi's for all the drum kit pieces), is on PITA.  Yes, I already use colors to help find them quicker but if there were 8 audio tracks being sent to a buss, wouldn't it be nice for SONAR to present you with a SUBMIX Console View of only the tracks routed to subject buss?  
 
I guess that the bakers could make an additional feature for the console view to include automatic submix view which becomes populated wihen you put the buss into focus on the console view.
 
Does this exist already?  If so, can someone give me a hint on how to use this in SONAR?
 
Thanks in advance,
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    Guitarpima
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    Re: Idea for Feature Request 2014/05/29 09:16:58 (permalink)
    I thought the inspector already had that?
     
    How about having color options? The fifty shades of grey isn't working.

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    Re: Idea for Feature Request 2014/05/29 09:24:35 (permalink)
    In X3 you can use color to show what tracks go to which buss. You set the color of the buss say drums to red and all tracks going to that buss become red. 

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    Re: Idea for Feature Request 2014/05/29 09:34:07 (permalink)
    In addition to the colors I would think you could set up a Screen Set for this. If you had a consistent 'kit' and routing you could set that up as a Template then the Screen Set would be there whenever you created a project with that Template.
     
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    Re: Idea for Feature Request 2014/05/29 11:02:56 (permalink)
    mmorgan
    In addition to the colors I would think you could set up a Screen Set for this. If you had a consistent 'kit' and routing you could set that up as a Template then the Screen Set would be there whenever you created a project with that Template.
     
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    That would work but I like the implementation Jim suggested. An option to click on a buss and have only the tracks associated with that buss show up would be awesome!!!
     
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    Re: Idea for Feature Request 2014/05/29 21:16:51 (permalink)
    Apparetnly there really isn't this capability in Sonar... I hope the bakers read this.... I agree, it would be awesome.
     
    Thanks everyone,
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    Re: Idea for Feature Request 2014/05/29 21:16:51 (permalink)
    Apparetnly there really isn't this capability in Sonar... I hope the bakers read this.... I agree, it would be awesome.
     
    Thanks everyone,
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    Re: Idea for Feature Request 2014/05/29 21:16:51 (permalink)
    Apparetnly there really isn't this capability in Sonar... I hope the bakers read this.... I agree, it would be awesome.
     
    Thanks everyone,
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    Re: Idea for Feature Request 2014/05/29 21:16:52 (permalink)
    Apparetnly there really isn't this capability in Sonar... I hope the bakers read this.... I agree, it would be awesome.
     
    Thanks everyone,
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    Re: Idea for Feature Request 2014/05/29 22:42:10 (permalink)
    I have all my drum tracks in a track folder and they are all next to each other, so it is never a problem for me.
     
    I also have multiple drum buses, and they too are all next to each other.  A bus for toms, cymbals, whatever, all feeding the main Drums bus.
     
    Just curious as to why you would have them scattered?  (might make perfect sense, I am just curious).
     
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    Re: Idea for Feature Request 2014/05/30 11:46:59 (permalink)
    Pretty cool idea actually. It's like a solo for viewing. Would make navigating way faster for some things.

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    Re: Idea for Feature Request 2014/05/30 17:11:07 (permalink)
    Bob,
     
    I use more than 1 drum VSTi (all with multiple outs), the audio tracks are in the folders of the VSTi.s, spread out all over the Console View.
     
    Example, I use the GEN X cymbal libraries (they are best I have ever heard) which runs under BFD, my kit piece VSTi's vary depending on what kit or style I want to use.
     
    Another example is that I love the PREMIER jazz kit from AD (XLN audio) but lreally love the 70s Abbey Road Gretsch kit for that old time vintage rock sound.
     
    So you see, when I go and mix the drums, my audio tracks are spread all over the CONSOLE view.  I could re arrange these but I like keeping them in their own folder in case I need to add another separate out audio track, I can see which out is still available.
     
    Hope this makes sense and this is only one example on my workflow.  I was really hoping that this function already existed in SONAR and I just wasn't aware of it.

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    Re: Idea for Feature Request 2014/05/30 18:46:53 (permalink)
    Wow - you are a Lamb Lies Down kind of dude, too?  Kewl.
     
    Thanks for explaining.  
     
    I usually get the kit together that I want to use, whether that's one instance of Battery 3, or 2, or some combo of 3-4 from who knows what plugin, for replacing particular kit pieces, or for adding things like gongs or what not.
     
    Because I do this early on, I just group the main kit into a Drums track folder, then add additional audio and midi drum tracks into that same track folder.
     
    All of the replacements and additional percussive pieces are added at the bottom of the track folder, so it isn't hard for me to know what is coming from what.
     
    In any case, i DO like the idea - submit it as a Feature Request, if you haven't already.
     
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    Re: Idea for Feature Request 2014/05/30 23:43:07 (permalink)
    Yup, 
     
    The LAMB has been a fun project.  I got to make friends with the original producer, Steve Hackett and Mike Rutherford.  It has been very educational and truly a blast.
     
    I only do this stuff as a hobby now... great stuff to escape the trials and tribulations of life, no?  I used to be much more serious when I was younger.
     
    I am a guitarist as a discipline but know enough to fake my way thru keyboards thanks to MIDI.
     
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    Re: Idea for Feature Request 2014/05/31 09:49:12 (permalink)
    Very cool.  I got to meet the band at the Roxy, way back in 1980, and had dinner with them prior to a show in front of about 250 people.  The next night, I was invited to watch the show from up on the stage (out of sight on the side) at the Greek Theater in LA.  Mike had his 5-year old daughter along for the ride, and she ran all over the place before the show.  He is a SUPER nice guy.
     
    Did you ever deal with Geoff Banks?  (I think that was his name) - He was an equipment manager for either Mike or for the band, I cannot recall exactly which.
     
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