Some novice Sonar questions!

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Some novice Sonar questions!

1) I've found a series of Sonar X2 videos on the Cakewalk YouTube channel. Is it suggested that I watch any Sonar X2 tutorials to further my education, or it best to perhaps avoid these so as not to confuse myself on what may have changed since X2?
 
2) Is there any way to bring back Music Creator's File Load/Save/Burn module to the Control Bar?

3) In which file are Sonar's Preferences and Control Bar settings located (in case I wish to back up these settings)?

4) Upon a fresh installation of Sonar, three instances of Cakewalk Projects are created. Ummm...what the heck? (in other words, why?)

5) Sometimes my vertical gridlines disappear! How can I stop this from happening?

6) Is there a way to insert a GM1 synth track? I have older projects from the 90's I wish to remaster, and I would like a GM1 synth merely to assist in identifying the old instrument patches I used. (I no longer have the raw MIDI data from my 90's projects, just the digital.)
 
7) I'm having a problem editing within Take Lanes. Take Lanes are, after all, for different "takes", correct? Whenever I delete data from the Take Lane, it deletes it from its host track as well. Aren't Take Lanes supposed to work independently from each other?
 
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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    icontakt
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    Re: Some novice Sonar questions! 2014/05/31 11:45:52 (permalink)
    1) Take lanes videos should probably be avoided since X3 added new "Comping" mode. Also avoid things that no longer exist in Sonar (e.g. V-Vocal).
     
    5) Grid lines in the Piano Roll view?
     
    6) I believe TTS-1 is a GM synth (Insert > Soft Synth > DirectX > Cakewalk TTS1).
     
    7) Take lanes are independent from each other, but they are part of a track (they make the track) so if you delete data in any of the lanes it will be deleted from the track as well.

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    Re: Some novice Sonar questions! 2014/05/31 14:25:56 (permalink)
    You can still write automation the old way if you don't want to use take lanes. It took me a while to get used to take lanes. Mostly, remembering that they're there.
    X2 videos will be very helpful as a starting point but much has been moved around and completely changed since X2.

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    Re: Some novice Sonar questions! 2014/05/31 16:52:45 (permalink)
    The old videos will show much of how sonar still works.  Comping is an example of a big change - but there are only a few others.
     
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    Re: Some novice Sonar questions! 2014/06/04 18:06:50 (permalink)
    Thanks for your answers to these questions! This is just a follow-up.
     
    2) I figured there was a way to have the File module in the control bar (like MC6), but I guess not.
    3) Does anyone know where Sonar's Preferences and Menu Bar settings are stored?
    5) The vertical gridlines disappearing -- sorry I wasn't specific. In the PRV, sometimes they disappear and I cannot figure out why.
     
    NEW QUESTIONS
     
    When I lower the Velocity of a note, every new note I draw thereafter uses the same velocity. I prefer that every new note is default velocity! Is there a setting for that?
     
    I know that eventually I'll want to convert some of my MIDI tracks to Audio. What is the difference between "Bounce to Audio" and "Convert to Audio", and how will I know when to utilize either?
     
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    Re: Some novice Sonar questions! 2014/06/05 16:27:15 (permalink)
    Kindly bumping for a hopeful follow-up to these questions... :)
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    Re: Some novice Sonar questions! 2014/06/05 21:10:35 (permalink)
    A bunch of Sonar settings live in the roaming application data for your user, in aud.ini, and I would imagine other files there have additional info Sonar uses.
     
    I don't know that I would start playing around with its internal files - some folks change stuff once in a while, but clearly that isn't something they intend for folks to do, outside of their Preferences dialog.
     
    I am curious - what do you wish to do in the file menu that you used to do in MC6?
     
    I will circle back on your other questions after the basketball game :)
     
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    Re: Some novice Sonar questions! 2014/06/05 23:57:15 (permalink)
    Preferences is in the Edit menu. 
    You can edit the tool bars just like any windows app.

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    Re: Some novice Sonar questions! 2014/06/06 06:39:41 (permalink)
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    A bunch of Sonar settings live in the roaming application data for your user, in aud.ini, and I would imagine other files there have additional info Sonar uses.
     
    I don't know that I would start playing around with its internal files - some folks change stuff once in a while, but clearly that isn't something they intend for folks to do, outside of their Preferences dialog.
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    I merely want to backup the files associated with the Preferences and the Menu Bar (which aren't included when building a Template.)
     
    NEW QUESTION:
     
    I'm not able to bounce a TTS synth track to audio, but I can bounce any other synth track. Am I missing something? Is there a workaround other than exporting the track to audio?
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    Re: Some novice Sonar questions! 2014/06/06 06:49:31 (permalink)
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    Re: Some novice Sonar questions! 2014/06/06 10:52:42 (permalink)
    Like I said, the menu bars is the same menu bar that all software uses, Once customized it is static and anchors the software. The same with preferences. You wouldn't want that to change all the time when you say, load older projects, you want it to stay the same. 
     
    Not sure why you want the TTS-1 to become audio, it uses very little resources so you normally just leave it as MIDI until export. I sure it can be bounced but might need more than one destination track if your using multi instruments. 
     
    You sound like you might benefit from picking up Scott's Power book...it will answer your questions in an easy to understand way. You can also search the user manual. 

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    Re: Some novice Sonar questions! 2014/06/06 14:23:47 (permalink)
    NEW QUESTION:
     
    I'm not able to bounce a TTS synth track to audio, but I can bounce any other synth track. Am I missing something? Is there a workaround other than exporting the track to audio?

     
    Yes, you are missing something. You bounce each soft synth the same way, when they are set up the same "EXACT" way. 
     
    Make sure all your gain stages and signal chains for the TTS are correct. Then you can bounce it. 
    Who know what's going on with your settings and routing.
    • It may be as simple as your export source.
    • Or it may be as simple as the outputs are not going to your export source.
    • It can also be as simple as you not selecting 'ALL' associated tracks with that TTS synth
    • Or it can be as simple as the synths internal routings.

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    Re: Some novice Sonar questions! 2014/06/10 18:41:05 (permalink)
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    NEW QUESTION:

    I'm not able to bounce a TTS synth track to audio, but I can bounce any other synth track. Am I missing something? Is there a workaround other than exporting the track to audio?

     
    Yes, you are missing something. You bounce each soft synth the same way, when they are set up the same "EXACT" way. 
     
    Make sure all your gain stages and signal chains for the TTS are correct. Then you can bounce it. 
    Who know what's going on with your settings and routing.
    • It may be as simple as your export source.
    • Or it may be as simple as the outputs are not going to your export source.
    • It can also be as simple as you not selecting 'ALL' associated tracks with that TTS synth
    • Or it can be as simple as the synths internal routings.



    I see. the SoundCenter tracks are "bounceable", but it doesn't seem that the TTS tracks are. I do have my TTS tracks calling to an output track. The error message I get says:
     
    "The specified selection did not contain any audio data."
     
    This window appears twice back-to-back. Okay -- does it mean audio data "literally" audio, or any audio period? I just want to be able to convert a TTS track in an audio clip like I can with any other synth track.
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    Re: Some novice Sonar questions! 2014/06/10 23:47:22 (permalink)
    I'd also recommend Sonar Power! Very well written!

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    Re: Some novice Sonar questions! 2014/06/11 01:57:03 (permalink)
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    I see. the SoundCenter tracks are "bounceable", but it doesn't seem that the TTS tracks are. I do have my TTS tracks calling to an output track. The error message I get says:
     
    "The specified selection did not contain any audio data."
     
    This window appears twice back-to-back. Okay -- does it mean audio data "literally" audio, or any audio period? I just want to be able to convert a TTS track in an audio clip like I can with any other synth track.




    You can. You have to select the MIDI track and audio track. If it's in a folder, open the folder and make sure both are selected. To bounce, you need the data that plays the synth, and the synth the audio provides.
     
    The TTS-1 can bounce like any other synth in Sonar.

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