JohnKenn
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Reverb impulse. Anyone know about this?
Slim chance, but was on the way to work and public radio had an editorial. Asked "do you know what sound this is" Recognized immediately someone was recording an impulse reverb file with an incredible trail. Was a gun shot inside WWII oil supply tanks, in Ireland I think. Some guy wrote a book on unique sounds to check out in the world while touring. Evidently these underground metal tanks are "the size of cathedrals", can only be accessed by climbing through the oil pipes to get inside the chamber. Musicians go inside to play and record. Claimed to have the longest reverb trails we know of on earth, up to 2 minutes depending on the frequency. The examples were amazing and there are recorded impulse files. Curious if anyone knows about these. If someone was making impulse files, they have to be available somewhere. Any clues or bits of information appreciated so I (we) can track them down. Thanks. John
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JohnKenn
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Re: Reverb impulse. Anyone know about this?
2014/05/31 13:43:53
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JohnKenn
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Re: Reverb impulse. Anyone know about this?
2014/05/31 13:50:30
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Praises to Allah and the celestial virgins!! Scroll down the link and the gunshot is on a sound clip. Probably mono and whatever mp3 resolution, but can be captured and loaded into the likes of Reverberate. John
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Re: Reverb impulse. Anyone know about this?
2014/05/31 13:54:45
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JohnKenn
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Re: Reverb impulse. Anyone know about this?
2014/05/31 13:59:14
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JohnKenn
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Re: Reverb impulse. Anyone know about this?
2014/05/31 14:28:33
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Interesting video... When I was a kid up in Alaska, there were two super giant oil storage units long empty. They were on the coast and we would throw rocks at them to listen to the seemingly endless ring. The earthquale of '63 shredded us up quite badly. After the tsunami hit, a lot of coastal villages were just gone without a trace. Nobody knew about tsunamis so unknown number of lives lost. The other things that disappeared never to be found were the two giant steel oil containers.
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mixmkr
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Re: Reverb impulse. Anyone know about this?
2014/05/31 15:12:43
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I've got zillions of impulse files I've collected since Perfect Space first came out. Several Taj Mahal, that I think are just amazing. I'll have to check this later, as heading out the door now. this is great!
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JohnKenn
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Re: Reverb impulse. Anyone know about this?
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Re: Reverb impulse. Anyone know about this?
2014/05/31 21:53:23
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JohnKenn
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Re: Reverb impulse. Anyone know about this?
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I'd recorded in a large ceramic bathroom in Turkey and thought that was cool. My wish list would be able to drag an acoustic guitar around the world to some of these places. Looks like Bit is just north of the river from me so might be able to do the cistern. My daughter gave me a collection of DVD's a few years ago from the "Planet Earth" series. One was on newly discovered underground caverns in the eastern US with incredible acoustics and some that resonate and vibrate like glass on their own from energies deep in the earth. Can only dream for now. Been playing with the Scotland oil drum impulse in Reverberate. The file itself is too long to be of nuch practical use, but manipulating the length, decay etc comes up with some excellent effects. Only wish the original file was stereo. John
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Re: Reverb impulse. Anyone know about this?
2014/06/01 20:16:06
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Bumping my thread as it decays to the bottom of the bird cage, page 2, and into obscurity. Few slow notes on a guitar in the oil tank. Only effect was the oil tank. Cut the reverb to about 11 seconds since the 75 sec file was more than overkill. Download file I posted was cut by me to 35 seconds of the decay. Cakewalk Perfect Space was the most reliable to initially import the file, but latency was a factor for real time processing. Used Reverberate full version to import the file and cut it to the 11 second length. http://en.swoopshare.com/file/d1f71c80d4e8611b13e9da4204a28ed8/Scotland.mp3.html Significance of this is that it is real world. Easy to warp stuff digitally and can get the same or better than this with Valhalla, but still a miracle that these sound scapes exist for real in the material realm. This gun shot in the oil tank supposedly dethroned the previous front runner. Some heathen cathedral in Europe that did a 15 second reverb tail recorded from slamming the front door. Scotland oil depot is king of the realm until we discover something else out there. Love to all, John
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Re: Reverb impulse. Anyone know about this?
2014/06/02 18:12:10
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Sounds pretty cool. Don't know how you'd ever fit it into a mix, though. Of course, that's the problem with 80% of the presets in Valhalla UberMod - they're useless unless it's a solo instrument, but still fun to play with.
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mixmkr
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Re: Reverb impulse. Anyone know about this?
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Re: Reverb impulse. Anyone know about this?
2014/06/02 18:30:36
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I tired two instances of it with Perfect Space...panning hard L/R and slightly altering the predelay, EQ, etc from each other and made for a pretty nice pseudo stereo effect. This will go next to my Taj impulses!
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JohnKenn
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Re: Reverb impulse. Anyone know about this?
2014/06/02 23:09:52
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Realize this impulse is far too long to be usefull in real life application. The gunshot was never meant to be a musical tool, just a scientific analysis of a newly found reverb length record.. Just so happens an incredible impulse file was created. Turns everything into mud if the complete 35 second tail is used. Original was 75 seconds. Heard clips of various musicians in the tank and the effect was so overpowering, they let the reverb play them rather than using the ambience as a secondary effect. Dynamite impulse file however. Gives the headroom to let software shorten the length for brief applications. Got some great effects truncating to under a quarter second. This besides being a premium impulse with imbedded subtle echo overtones in the background. John
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Re: Reverb impulse. Anyone know about this?
2014/06/02 23:46:20
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JohnKenn Realize this impulse is far too long to be usefull in real life application.
Well isn't that a bummer?? Sure it is... I wash my clothes in reverb.. cause it's nice and wet... For ambient sound scapes, this could be useful. ....think... ONE pan flute (Zamphir)..... note.... fading into total ambient bliss.... lol!
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Re: Reverb impulse. Anyone know about this?
2014/06/03 10:03:31
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If you gate it, you could "re-popularize" that 80's drum sound (a-la Phil Collins)
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JohnKenn
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Re: Reverb impulse. Anyone know about this?
2014/06/03 22:53:06
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Thanks Jim for the gate possibility, and to mixmkr for a gentle reminder that branding a file useless doesn't mean it's useless for everyone... Got to get back to the Zen of things, my bad... This link is to a permutation of the oil can file. Still only at 35 sec, about half of the original. Much longer rendering brings in destructive mic artifacts. May or may not be useful, but a good education out here... Learned a few things. Used two blasphemous programs that everyone loves to hate. Warped the decay slope with the "R" word to get a consistent level. Then used (gasp!!) Cake's Boost to level out inconsistencies fed through from Reaper... oh crap, meant from the "R" word... Hope the censor police don't delete this. Couple points I learned to forward my microcosmic understanding. First, was trying to cut off the initial steep slope so I could get a more gradual decay to normalize the file. No matter where I cut the beginning off, the same math asymptote rule applied. Beauty in nature that only digital tech could kick back in my face. Then the frequency decay. The file is normalized quite well, but the hi's die off leaving deeper frequencies skewed in the mix. Means this file is progressively darker and can overload the track. Clipping will be a problem in not rolled back as the low tones take over.. Here it is, best I can do. May ultimately be best not to fork with mother nature 'cause don't know if this was an improvement or not.. Check it out anyway... http://en.swoopshare.com/file/4818e2e300abe30dc6f2ab37d0e1bf5e/Scotland2.wav.html John
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