Anyone else have Guitar Rig 5 fail - unhandled exception - loading VST 3 synth in X3e?

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Anyone else have Guitar Rig 5 fail - unhandled exception - loading VST 3 synth in X3e?

Just wondering.  I got an X3e crash during a load of an Arturia VST 3 synth (Oberheim SEM V) into a simple project that had Battery 3 and Guitar Rig 5.
 
The failure was in Guitar Rig 5.
 
Soooo, I will experiment some more, but am wondering if someone has both Guitar Rig 5 and an additional VST 3 synth they could load in X3e, and see what happens.  (GR 5 loaded first, then VST 3 was attempted to be inserted after).
 
Thanks, I am believing this to be a Native Instruments issue, but thought I would see if happens to others, or if it may be unique to my system.
 
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    Re: Anyone else have Guitar Rig 5 fail - unhandled exception - loading VST 3 synth in X3e? 2014/06/01 00:03:52 (permalink)
    OK - couple of updates.
     
    1.  I skipped the load of Guitar Rig 5, and just had Battery 3 in, and it failed in Battery 3 this time on the insert of a VST 3 synth.  I even chose a different synth this time.
     
    2.  I then started a new Normal project, with nothing in it, and it still failed on insert of a VST 3 synth.
     
    So, I will keep digging.
     
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    Re: Anyone else have Guitar Rig 5 fail - unhandled exception - loading VST 3 synth in X3e? 2014/06/01 00:12:52 (permalink)
    Could not replicate, projects did not crash using the following steps:
    Create new project
    Add audio track
    Add Guitar Rig 5 in FX bin
    Insert Fabfilter Twin 2 VST3
    or
    same steps except inserting iZotope Iris VST3 instead of FabFilter Twin 2
     
    still running Win7 though.
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    Re: Anyone else have Guitar Rig 5 fail - unhandled exception - loading VST 3 synth in X3e? 2014/06/01 00:59:26 (permalink)
    Got you - Might be an Arturia thing.  I just loaded MDrummer (different vendor), which is a VST 3, and had no problem.
     
    I could have sworn I created a project in X3 when I bought the Arturia V Collection in January, and I loaded each synth into the project to make sure they all loaded.  I didn't save it, and it is possible I did it in X2, OR possible prior to applying X3e.  I just cannot recall.
     
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    Re: Anyone else have Guitar Rig 5 fail - unhandled exception - loading VST 3 synth in X3e? 2014/06/01 01:34:07 (permalink)
    Hi Bob, 
    Just tried it with a new project and got a crash. 
    Audio track with gr5 on it and inserted oberheim vst3. Crash. *frownyface*
     

     
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    Re: Anyone else have Guitar Rig 5 fail - unhandled exception - loading VST 3 synth in X3e? 2014/06/01 01:39:39 (permalink)
    I expect you will find it will crash on an empty project and an insert of an Arturia VST 3.
     
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    Re: Anyone else have Guitar Rig 5 fail - unhandled exception - loading VST 3 synth in X3e? 2014/06/01 05:10:08 (permalink)

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    Re: Anyone else have Guitar Rig 5 fail - unhandled exception - loading VST 3 synth in X3e? 2014/06/01 05:35:47 (permalink)
    I think there is is something screwy with some of the Arturia synths. Before I went away I got a couple of Sonar crashes, the first time for ages. In both instances an Arturia synth was in the project. Then I had the same error message when one of their synths crashed in stand alone.
     
    I am no where near my DAW for the next week so cannot investigate further. I can't even remember if I am using the VST3 versions
     

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    Re: Anyone else have Guitar Rig 5 fail - unhandled exception - loading VST 3 synth in X3e? 2014/06/01 11:30:48 (permalink)
    I looked at the 2 links in the other above post, and see that I had already confirmed earlier that there was an issue with Arturia - I must be getting old, because I have zero recollection of posting that.
     
    Yikes!
     
    It may well be some Sonar quirk, as I am able to load the same synths that fail in Sonar into Forte (a VST performance host from Brainspawn), and they all load there just fine.
     
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    Re: Anyone else have Guitar Rig 5 fail - unhandled exception - loading VST 3 synth in X3e? 2014/06/01 12:40:31 (permalink)
    What is the status of your forgotten bug report?

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    Re: Anyone else have Guitar Rig 5 fail - unhandled exception - loading VST 3 synth in X3e? 2014/06/01 13:00:05 (permalink)
    According to Arturia 

     
    From: Technical Support inquiry [technical-inquiry@arturia.com]
    Sent: 28 April 2014 16:52
    To: Arturia
    Subject: Re: (Case 165239) Technical support obsemv
     
    Hi Wookiee,

    Sonar X3e's plug in validation process is causing some Arturia plug ins to crash.

    We're currently communicating with Sonar, they told us this problem would be fixed in the next update.

    If you want further details about this issue, I'll invite you to contact Sonar's technical support.

    Best regards,

    Jerome
     
    Post 2

    Hi Wookiee,

    Unfortunately Oberheim SEM V isn't compatible with Sonar X3e for now.

    To run Oberheim under your DAW, I'll suggest you to downgrade to the previous Sonar patch.

    Best regards,

    Jerome



    Interestingly if you should happen to own Analogue lab or Audio Lab you load SEM V with in them and edit patches.
     
    Go figure

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    Re: Anyone else have Guitar Rig 5 fail - unhandled exception - loading VST 3 synth in X3e? 2014/06/01 13:05:05 (permalink)
    Are the "lab" versions like minihosts? Maybe loading into a subhost inside sonar might work

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    Re: Anyone else have Guitar Rig 5 fail - unhandled exception - loading VST 3 synth in X3e? 2014/06/01 13:05:21 (permalink)
    Oh and Cakewalk support have failed to even acknowledge, (i.e. an email to say yes we know or we need more information or it is all Arturia fault), my the error even though they have asked on the support form. 
     
    Interestingly also "The next update" will there be an X3f or are we taking X4

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    Re: Anyone else have Guitar Rig 5 fail - unhandled exception - loading VST 3 synth in X3e? 2014/06/01 14:15:03 (permalink)
    IMHO it's update x3f, upgrade x4, but that's open to marketing debate

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    Re: Anyone else have Guitar Rig 5 fail - unhandled exception - loading VST 3 synth in X3e? 2014/06/02 06:22:24 (permalink)
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    I looked at the 2 links in the other above post, and see that I had already confirmed earlier that there was an issue with Arturia - I must be getting old, because I have zero recollection of posting that.
     
    Yikes!
     
    It may well be some Sonar quirk, as I am able to load the same synths that fail in Sonar into Forte (a VST performance host from Brainspawn), and they all load there just fine.
     
    Bob Bone
     
    whats the status of the bug report? Are they "on it"?

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    Re: Anyone else have Guitar Rig 5 fail - unhandled exception - loading VST 3 synth in X3e? 2014/06/02 08:14:53 (permalink)
    I will contact Cakewalk technical support via phone this afternoon, and will post back any updates.
     
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    Re: Anyone else have Guitar Rig 5 fail - unhandled exception - loading VST 3 synth in X3e? 2014/06/02 08:17:43 (permalink)
    Can't you get the status online? https://www.cakewalk.com/.../Problem-Report-Status
    Tfti!

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    Re: Anyone else have Guitar Rig 5 fail - unhandled exception - loading VST 3 synth in X3e? 2014/06/02 09:17:28 (permalink)
    Well, when I go to look it up, I get:
     

    "The Internet is Broken

    Well at least our little corner of it is."
     
    In addition, I want to discuss the Arturia response that was pasted above in this thread, so I need to call them.  :)
     
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    Re: Anyone else have Guitar Rig 5 fail - unhandled exception - loading VST 3 synth in X3e? 2014/06/02 09:18:36 (permalink)
    Cool, thanks for trying :-)

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    Re: Anyone else have Guitar Rig 5 fail - unhandled exception - loading VST 3 synth in X3e? 2014/06/02 10:08:20 (permalink)
    You get internet is broken if you type in the letters. Just type in the numbers into Cake problem reporter. Their form validation is kinda screwed, and I cant understand why they just don't just strip out the letters automatically if that's what they require.Ta

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    Re: Anyone else have Guitar Rig 5 fail - unhandled exception - loading VST 3 synth in X3e? 2014/06/02 10:10:34 (permalink)
    Useful tip!

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    Re: Anyone else have Guitar Rig 5 fail - unhandled exception - loading VST 3 synth in X3e? 2014/06/02 10:58:45 (permalink)
    Thanks - I was able to retrieve it.  It is 'Awaiting Review', as of 05/05/14
     
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    Re: Anyone else have Guitar Rig 5 fail - unhandled exception - loading VST 3 synth in X3e? 2014/06/02 12:32:28 (permalink)
    Thanks Bob, you know you can call me by name, I know you do not see me up here very often, to many "experts" not enough indians (or should that be native <insert country of choice>) for me, but as I have been using Cakewalk products since Apprentice under DOS and Windows 3.1 all version of Pro Audio and Sonar from 1 through 8.5 and X1 to X3 (always flagship version) I pretty much have a feel for how Cakewalk/Twelve Tone does things.
     
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